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I think FMC scrambles should always be non-optimal. If they are optimal, it actually makes it more difficult to find a valid optimal solution - because it is likely to be related to (read: the inverse of) the scramble :D
 

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That 'method' from the F3L thread;

L2 R D' B2 D2 R B R' U' R D B2 F2 D' B' F U R' L D U R' U L' B'

Cross: z' D' M B L x
1: U2 L2 B L U2 B' U L
2: F2 L2 U' L U L2 F U' F
3: L U L' R' F' U2 F R
4: B2 U' B D' B' U D B2 D' B' D
ELL: R U R' U' M' U R U' R' U' M U2 M' U' M
 

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That 'method' from the F3L thread;

L2 R D' B2 D2 R B R' U' R D B2 F2 D' B' F U R' L D U R' U L' B'

Cross: z' D' M B L x
1: U2 L2 B L U2 B' U L
2: F2 L2 U' L U L2 F U' F
3: L U L' R' F' U2 F R
4: B2 U' B D' B' U D B2 D' B' D
ELL: R U R' U' M' U R U' R' U' M U2 M' U' M
Interesting idea, isn't it (although I don't actually remember this being posted)?

Actually, I could see a variant of this (similar to L2L2) being potentially useful - cross + 2 F2L pairs, F2L + CO (with WV?), F2L + CP, ELL.
 

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That 'method' from the F3L thread;

L2 R D' B2 D2 R B R' U' R D B2 F2 D' B' F U R' L D U R' U L' B'

Cross: z' D' M B L x
1: U2 L2 B L U2 B' U L
2: F2 L2 U' L U L2 F U' F
3: L U L' R' F' U2 F R
4: B2 U' B D' B' U D B2 D' B' D
ELL: R U R' U' M' U R U' R' U' M U2 M' U' M
If you were to speed solve using that method, how long would it take you?
 
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