Random Cubing Discussion

[Tim Major]

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/5368

lol

I lol'd.
And "These pads in the future will be modified with the Rubiks logo etc
and will be implemented onto the rubiks site for purchase and will be
used for all future events..."
This never happened, and isn't planned to happen is it? I don't see any reason for it.

 

[Kirjava]

 

[Kirjava]

http://www.areyoulogical.com/cube/snydermethod3.html

Vapourware. Snyder is a nut.

 

[Yes We Can!]

Did you record it last Friday?

 

[Kirjava]

http://www.areyoulogical.com/cube/snydermethod3.html

"I estimate that I have solved the cube 1.7 million times."

...

 

[Cubenovice]

" It will forever change cube solving as it will allow the solver to average about 30 turns in a speed solve."

 

[miniGOINGS]

http://www.areyoulogical.com/cube/snydermethod3.html

Vapourware. Snyder is a nut.

I am seriously suspicious of his claims (even though he told me not to be!) and do not plan on supporting him with money so thathe can come up with a method to solve the cube (in an average of 4.5 seconds) in about a year. On the plus side though, it can be learned "in a few months time".

 

[Kirjava]

Yeah. Kirjava is skeptical.

Snyder should tell me his ideas for this, as there's no way something like this is possible with the conventional style of methods.

Potentially possible with flowcharting and some type of recognition abstraction.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Yeah. Kirjava is skeptical.

Snyder should tell me his ideas for this, as there's no way something like this is possible with the conventional style of methods.

Potentially possible with flowcharting and some type of recognition abstraction.

Well, he says that he's going to make a program (?) that determines that fastest humanly possible way of sovling the cube (method, algorithms, fingertricks, etc.), which I'm not sure is even possible. I mean, I would love to see this actually happen, but then why hasn't it already?

It seems like method ideas are becoming exhausted at such a rate that if there was a "Snyder Method 3", it would have been found by now, but oh well.

 

[Owen]

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?24822-Tony-Snyder-solves-the-cube

Lots of discussion about the Snyder method here.

 

[miniGOINGS]

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?24822-Tony-Snyder-solves-the-cube

Lots of discussion about the Snyder method here.

Yea, I was reading his page on the Wiki (http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/User:Tony_Snyder) and his method's page (http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Snyder) a while ago, and now I'm just not sure whether he is being hopeful or delusional.

 

[teller]

I dunno what you're doing, but that full frontal U' push is sexy.

 

[Mike Hughey]

"I estimate that I have solved the cube 1.7 million times."

I thought that sounded insane, but I did the calculations, and I guess it's not, really. If you assume he spent 1000 hours per year solving the cube, which is just 20 hours a week, in 29 years he'd have spent 1,740,000 minutes solving the cube. That allows him to meet his claim if he can scramble and then solve a cube per minute.

I'm guessing it's a pretty good bet this is exactly how he calculated it - what do you think? So coincidental that it comes out to 1.7 million times.

While 20 hours a week sounded quite reasonable to me at first, it is more than I thought. I just calculated an estimate of the amount of time it took me to do this week's weekly competition (which is probably about 80% of the cubing I do each week, now that I'm back to doing the whole competition each week), and including scrambling and solving time (but not any other wasted time in between), it came to just 10 hours. (I was really surprised - I expected it to be much more!) And that included every single event (including 6x6x6 BLD and 7x7x7 BLD, a full 60 minute multi, and a full 60 minutes on fewest moves), and even BLD solves for each non-cubic puzzle (the megaminx BLD attempt was an hour and 20 minutes). So 20 hours of actual continuous cubing is a lot of time per week, at least from my perspective. Especially if you do it for 29 years!

 

[qqwref]

Yeah, it's hard for me to believe that someone could spend 3 hours solving 3x3, every day, for 30 years. It's sure possible, but I can't believe someone would actually do it.

The "Snyder method 3" idea is really iffy too. 30 moves in speedsolving? Choosing the objectively best stages and fingertricks? Requiring a sponsor? It seems many times more likely that Tony is deluded about how much improvement is really possible, than that he can really improve on all existing speed methods by some 30%.

 

[Anthony]

1.72 F' R2 F R' F' U' F R' F2 R2 U'

Cool solution
z2 y' F U' R2 U' R2 U R2 U R

 

[JackJ]

12.35 reconstruction

R L D B2 R2 F' D' U R L2 D R2 F' D2 B L D U2 F' D2 U2 R2 B2 U R'

U B' D2 L' U R' F R
y' R U' R2 U R
U R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R'
y' R U2 R' U' R U R'
U2 r U r' R U R' U' r U' r'
U' F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F'

63 moves, 5.1 tps

 

[qqwref]

A random 8-flip I found:
(l U' R' U2)8

 

[cmhardw]

Roux melts my brain, but it's still fun I just felt that it needed saying

 

[RyanReese09]

Roux melts my brain, but it's still fun I just felt that it needed saying

I saw you start it in the race to sub30 thread so I thought I'd join in! I think it's time I started venturing out to new methods anyway.

 

[cmhardw]

I saw you start it in the race to sub30 thread so I thought I'd join in! I think it's time I started venturing out to new methods anyway.

Sounds good! I'll race you to sub-30 if you're down for it Right now I can't even pull off consistent sub-60. I'm also going full color neutral with Roux. I figure it's time I did it anyway, and learning a new method is a great excuse to try.