[Help Thread] One-Handed Solving Discussion

[Sub1Hour]

Hello. I avg about 25-26 seconds on OH currently and I believe that I can I improve upto low 20 seconds simply by practising as this is what I averaged before quiting cubing for almost 1.5 years.
I am aiming for sub -17 on OH now. My method is CFOP. What can I do to improve further? I mostly use 2 look OLL except for some cases and 1 look PLL except for G perms.

Learn the French G perms. Then I would actually try learning ZZ. I used ZZ for a little bit on OH and still use it on a few solves and it helped me improve my RUL TPS and it also gave me a better understanding of the 3x3 as a whole. You don't have to continue with ZZ but learning it can teach you a few techniques that work well for OH

 

[Cubing Forever]

Learn the French G perms. Then I would actually try learning ZZ. I used ZZ for a little bit on OH and still use it on a few solves and it helped me improve my RUL TPS and it also gave me a better understanding of the 3x3 as a whole. You don't have to continue with ZZ but learning it can teach you a few techniques that work well for OH

French G perms?

 

[Prabal Baishya]

Learn the French G perms. Then I would actually try learning ZZ. I used ZZ for a little bit on OH and still use it on a few solves and it helped me improve my RUL TPS and it also gave me a better understanding of the 3x3 as a whole. You don't have to continue with ZZ but learning it can teach you a few techniques that work well for OH

Can you tell where can I find those G-perms. I actually learned the ZZ method but never really implemented it during OH. I guess I will start practising with that

 

[Sub1Hour]

French G perms?

Mats Valk G Perms.pdf

G Permutation : a. Name:G(a) R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R2 D U' R' U R D' G Permutation : b. Name:G(b) R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 D G Permutation : c. Name:G(c) R2 F2 R U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F R2 G Permutation : d. Name:G(d) R U R' U' D R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 D'. ...

www.docdroid.net

All of these except for the Gc are french G perms. I only use the french Ga and Gd, but if you want an RUD Gc then you can just inverse the Gd alg.

 

[Cubing Forever]

Can you tell where can I find those G-perms. I actually learned the ZZ method but never really implemented it during OH. I guess I will start practising with that

French G perms are actually the normal RUD algs(didn't know that until today lol).
Algs:
Ga: R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R2 U' D R' U R D'
Gb: R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 D
Gc: R2 U' R U' R U R' U R2 U D' R U' R' D
Gd: R U R' U' D R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 D'

E: Thanks @Sub1Hour. I use these algs, never knew they had a name lol.

 

[PetrusQuber]

Mats Valk G Perms.pdf

G Permutation : a. Name:G(a) R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R2 D U' R' U R D' G Permutation : b. Name:G(b) R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 D G Permutation : c. Name:G(c) R2 F2 R U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F R2 G Permutation : d. Name:G(d) R U R' U' D R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 D'. ...

www.docdroid.net

All of these except for the Gc are french G perms. I only use the french Ga and Gd, but if you want an RUD Gc then you can just inverse the Gd alg.

Huh, always used those.

 

[Cubing Forever]

Should I use eido or doubleflick U2s(or just U' U')?

 

[PetrusQuber]

Should I use eido or doubleflick U2s(or just U' U')?

I prefer double flicks.

 

[GenTheThief]

Should I use eido or doubleflick U2s(or just U' U')?

It's very situational.
For this alg, I would use two double flicks: R U R' U' R U' R' U2 R U' R' U2 R U R'
For this alg, I would just use a U'U' flick: M2' U' M2' U' U' M2' U' M2'
For this alg, I would use an eido: honestly i can't think of algs that i use with a real eido but if i do ill edit it in
There are also things like disjointed eidos: R' U2 R U R' U R

Another thing that is very important in OH is R eidos: R U2 R2' U' R2 U' R2' U2 R

So learn them both and learn when to use them.

 

[Cubing Forever]

Ok so I thought that CPEOLL>2GLL for OH is fun and solves the problems that CP-first methods or CPLS have but the algs I could find for CPEOLL were outdated so I made a new algsheet with updated OH-only algs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cp-2ghxvNx5IotdZNxUOAm4L5BH98-Yi9OJI9EqJW7w/edit?usp=sharing

The empty tab on there is for when I add a recog system(any ideas anyone?)
(also the images are from Kirijava's old post about CPEOLL lmao)

 

[xyzzy]

Ok so I thought that CPEOLL>2GLL for OH is fun and solves the problems that CP-first methods or CPLS have but the algs I could find for CPEOLL were outdated so I made a new algsheet with updated OH-only algs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cp-2ghxvNx5IotdZNxUOAm4L5BH98-Yi9OJI9EqJW7w/edit?usp=sharing

How about r' D R2 U R' U2 R U' R2 D' r (or the mirror of this) or r U l U2 R' U2 R U2 l' U' r' for 4-flip diag?

(And yes, CPEOLL is fun!)

 

[Cubing Forever]

How about r' D R2 U R' U2 R U' R2 D' r (or the mirror of this) or r U l U2 R' U2 R U2 l' U' r' for 4-flip diag?

(And yes, CPEOLL is fun!)

1 yes, I don't think 2 is OH-friendly especially with those 2 l moves.

 

[Filipe Teixeira]

When I practice 3x3 one-handed my hand and fingers hurt. I can't practice for too much time.
Have you guys felt that too? It diminished with time? I ask myself if I'd be able to solve OH fast any time soon

If the hand/fingers pain disappeared with time for you, how long it took?

 

[Cubing Forever]

When I practice 3x3 one-handed my hand and fingers hurt. I can't practice for too much time.
Have you guys felt that too? It diminished with time? I ask myself if I'd be able to solve OH fast any time soon

If the hand/fingers pain disappeared with time for you, how long it took?

A month.
But now it doesn't exist I'm well on my way to sub 30, 25 solves a day.