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josh42732
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How to get faster at memo for bld 3x3?
Hey this is my first post but I wanted to ask more people how I can memo faster. I have been cubing since April-ish and learned to bld solve in July. I just timed myself last night, and I got a 5:36. I can excecute almost perfectly at my level, use M2/OP, but I would like some practice tips to go from 5 min to <1 min (hopefully!!) and go to a competition. Any help is appreciated!!
Hey this is my first post but I wanted to ask more people how I can memo faster. I have been cubing since April-ish and learned to bld solve in July. I just timed myself last night, and I got a 5:36. I can excecute almost perfectly at my level, use M2/OP, but I would like some practice tips to go from 5 min to <1 min (hopefully!!) and go to a competition. Any help is appreciated!!
Jakube
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What's your memorization method at the moment.
tseitsei
Veteran
If you dont use letter pairs already you should start using them right now!
Then once you just do a lot of solves and get familiar with your letter scheme you should already be able to memo much faster than you can now. You should also make a letter pair list or at least pre made letter pairs for "hard cases" that you cant immediately come up with on the fly.
One thing that helped me a lot was understanding that in order to progress I must dnf. Dnf a lot. Because if you always make a safe comfortable memo you wont improve. You must push it to become faster and that means that sometimes you forget your memo. But your memory will adapt to that if done constantly and you WILL be faster.
Then once you just do a lot of solves and get familiar with your letter scheme you should already be able to memo much faster than you can now. You should also make a letter pair list or at least pre made letter pairs for "hard cases" that you cant immediately come up with on the fly.
One thing that helped me a lot was understanding that in order to progress I must dnf. Dnf a lot. Because if you always make a safe comfortable memo you wont improve. You must push it to become faster and that means that sometimes you forget your memo. But your memory will adapt to that if done constantly and you WILL be faster.
josh42732
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I do same as Noah Arthurs which is corners/images and edges/audio.
JustACubingGuy1
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Best way to solve a 3x3 BLD?
So I want to start learning to solve a rubiks 3x3 BLD.What is the fastest method (for you) and can you give me tips?Thanks!
So I want to start learning to solve a rubiks 3x3 BLD.What is the fastest method (for you) and can you give me tips?Thanks!
Ollie
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The fastest method is 3-cycles, but also the hardest to learn, so I assume you want a method that is relatively easy to learn and has potential for solving in around 1:00-1:30. If so, learn M2 edges and OP corners, start here. Tips included.
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DGCubes
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https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?45162-BLD-FAQ-(Do-yourself-a-favor-and-read-this)
Personally, I use OP for both edges and corners, and I learned corners from the Cubing World tutorial and edges from the Zane C tutorial. I'm not particularly fast though, but I have found OP edges to be easier to understand than M2 (at least for me), although M2 is probably better in the long run.
Personally, I use OP for both edges and corners, and I learned corners from the Cubing World tutorial and edges from the Zane C tutorial. I'm not particularly fast though, but I have found OP edges to be easier to understand than M2 (at least for me), although M2 is probably better in the long run.
josh42732
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I just studied Zane Carney's tutorial in depth and even made flashcards for myself because I was really serious at learning BLD at the time. Don't try to learn it all in one day. Just focus on say edges for a couple days, and when you got that down, start to focus on corners, then gradually merge the two together. My first successful solve came after about 4-6 weeks of just drilling the algs that Zane taught, writing down my memo, and just doing corners only or edges only. After that, it just got easier and easier. Just practice. You don't have to make flashcards, but it makes it a crap ton easier. And I've found that thats the same for learning any alg.
Christmas
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How to practice 3bld? (I'm a beginner)
Hey, so I have been [actually] practicing 3bld for about a month now. I say actually because I knew how to before but I had never done a full solve, so yeah, last month I started again.
I average about 5 ~ 7 minutes using op with speffz and I want to get faster.
I've been told you can get to about 4 minutes with op, but I don't know. So I have a few questions:
I do around 3 ~ 6 solves a day, most are successful and I average about 5:30, my memo time is usually around 3 minutes. The main thing I want to improve is memo so to improve should I just keep doing solves. Or is there a more efficient way of practicing?
Also while we're here, when would you recommend I should switch methods, I think m2 is next but I'm still not sure about how things work with 3bld. So when do I learn what?
Thanks! ^^
Also I have started a youtube to document my progress (kinda) so if you're interested i will just leave it here
Hey, so I have been [actually] practicing 3bld for about a month now. I say actually because I knew how to before but I had never done a full solve, so yeah, last month I started again.
I average about 5 ~ 7 minutes using op with speffz and I want to get faster.
I've been told you can get to about 4 minutes with op, but I don't know. So I have a few questions:
I do around 3 ~ 6 solves a day, most are successful and I average about 5:30, my memo time is usually around 3 minutes. The main thing I want to improve is memo so to improve should I just keep doing solves. Or is there a more efficient way of practicing?
Also while we're here, when would you recommend I should switch methods, I think m2 is next but I'm still not sure about how things work with 3bld. So when do I learn what?
Thanks! ^^
Also I have started a youtube to document my progress (kinda) so if you're interested i will just leave it here
tseitsei
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You CAN probably get sub-1 with OP or at least sub-1:30 if you really want, BUT IMO you should learn M2 immediately.
OP for edges is just so bad since M2 is quite easy and save a ******load of moves. For corners OP is ok for now but you should start learning how comms work and learn some easy corner commutator cases asap and then slowly start to incorporate those to your solves also...
Best way to practise is mainly to do a lot of solves. Also make sure that you have good words/images for EVERY possible letter pair. The most important thing while practising is to keep pushing yourself. Especially keep pushing your memo. Review that one time less and force yourself to memorize faster than you think you are capable of. You might DNF at first but you will get faster. If you always just memo in the pace that feels good and comfortable for you, you will not improve (or at least you'll improve much slower)
newtonbase
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I'm currently using OP/M2 but need a faster method (especially for corners). Is it 3-style I should be learning? If so, what are the best tutorials? I had a look at the first 2 in Noah's series and was a little baffled. I had the same problem with his M2 videos initially.
tseitsei
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Yeah, I don't think there is a good "in between" method for corners between op and 3-style...
Comms are IMO best learned when you first learn basic principles on how comms work (I learned from here mostly http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/corner_3_cycles.html ).
And then just learn some easy cases first and setup to those first. Then you can slowly learn more as you advance.
Some easy cases to start with (assuming you use UBL buffer):
1. Both targets on the D-layer but NOT on the D-face (R U2 R' inserts and similar)
2. One target on the U-face and another target on the D-layer but NOT on the D-face (R' D R inserts and similar)
Those are easy to see 8-movers that I started with.
One more useful but a little more complicated case is
3. One target on the U-face and another on the D-face you need a 5-move insert R' F' R2 F R
Once you know only those 3 "groups" of commutators you can already setup every case to those with only a few setup moves max
newtonbase
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Now that's much easier to follow. I can see what Noah was talking about now too. Thanks for the help again tseitsei.
tseitsei
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Christmas
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Thanks, im trying to find some corner commutator tutorials but i just dont understand it. If you dont mind can you point me to a few good tutorials or explain to me XD
Thanks again
youSurname
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I found this video extremely helpful for understanding commutators https://youtube.com/watch?v=54SGrZbLcoE
tseitsei
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The one I linked for newtonbase a couple of posts up is where I learned the basic idea how comms work (Heise's site). And after that I just invented my own commutators that I use today (except 5-move inserts that I just memorized somewhere R' F' R2 F R and similar). First for easy cases only and gradually increased more and more of them to my solves. So I don't really know any tutorials other than that
Christmas
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thanks dude ill check it out
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