[Help Thread] Blindsolving

[cookingfat]

#items = (#wrong cubies) + (#cycles) - 2
#items = 12 + 1 - 2
#items = 11

oh yeah, please excuse my stupidness, lol.

Using this method is it usually easier to do the corners or edges first?

 

[fanwuq]

#items = (#wrong cubies) + (#cycles) - 2
#items = 12 + 1 - 2
#items = 11

oh yeah, please excuse my stupidness, lol.

Using this method is it usually easier to do the corners or edges first?

No difference. I do corners first, then edges, then go back to correct parity and finish last corner.

 

[fcwy1]

i have been trying to learn it for months and i'm still stuck too.

 

[cookingfat]

I did my first successful solve today, I am so pleased having only learnt it yesterday afternoon.

I admit I had to write down the order of pieces first, but I made my story, put on the blindfold (scarf) and did the solve, took off the blindfold and voila, The cube was solved! It's a very good feeling when you do it for the first time.

I need to thank Stefan Pochmann for his method and badmephisto for his excellent video tutorial.

 

[joey]

*Stefan

But congratulations!

 

[cookingfat]

*Stefan

But congratulations!

thanks, I changed it now. It was my first attempt too, so I'm pretty stoked about it. This is more fun than trying to get a sub-30

 

[joey]

Did you time it?

Where in sheffield are you? I went to Sheffield on Sunday, for the Hallam Open day, I should have come and cubed with you!

 

[cookingfat]

mm, I didn't time it, I just wanted to actually do it at first.

I tried another scramble and failed it, ended up with f2l and anti-sune oll. My story was definately correct, so I must have made an execution mistake.

I will time my next attempt, but it will probably be very long.

I'll pm you


edit - I timed my 3rd attempt, 25:52.91 about 18 minutes memo, and I failed with 2 flipped edges.

I did a successful solve in front of a friend, since then I've failed, mainly with 2 or 3 edges or corners not solved.

I nearly did a 12 minute solve just then, but realised after I had forgotten about the ogre playing with the yoyo before optimus prime burst through the wall and hit him. maybe I should have taken my yoyo from my pocket and violently strangled the ogre with it instead.

 

[rjohnson_8ball]

Yay cookingfat! Isn't it just so cool when you find out that you totally solved it? There seems to be so much room for mistakes to happen, it is so amazing when it all works. My first solve made me happy all week. You can watch the jaw drop on some people when you tell people what you can do. (Some people have no clue, and could care less. It's like me explaining my excitement to my cat.) I use 3OP, but I guess I should try M2.

 

[cookingfat]

yeah it's the best feeling ever solving it for the first time.

I've just had another success this morning, total time - 15:27.72. (10:30 inspection)

I'm still using pen and paper though to write down the order of pieces so I can make my story, any tips on how to ditch the pen and paper?

I looked into M2 last night, it looks quicker, but the setup moves seem slightly longer and confusing

 

[joey]

yeah it's the best feeling ever solving it for the first time.

I've just had another success this morning, total time - 15:27.72. (10:30 inspection)

I'm still using pen and paper though to write down the order of pieces so I can make my story, any tips on how to ditch the pen and paper?

I looked into M2 last night, it looks quicker, but the setup moves seem slightly longer and confusing

There is no 'trick' to ditching the pen and paper. You just have to make the story up as you go along, and keep going over it.

The setups for M2 are about the same length, and equally as confusing. The only 'hard' thing about M2 is flipped M-pieces and odd slices.

 

[cookingfat]

making up the story as I go along doesn't sound too hard really, the main reason I need pen and paper is to work out which slots are still unsolved when you have to change cycles and making sure I have the right number of moves to remember (using the equation) and whether I need a parity fix. would it help to try and keep a finger on the solved pieces as I'm making my story?

I'm not sure about M2 then, I like the pochmann way because the setup moves are usually 1 or 2 moves and the perms are really quick to do.

 

[Ville Seppänen]

would it help to try and keep a finger on the solved pieces as I'm making my story?

Yes it would. That's what I do for big cube centers (and still get confused ). After a few solves I'm sure you don't need to do that, but it will probably help now.

 

[cookingfat]

thanks, I will try that, but I seem to run out of fingers, lol.

another question, lets say I need to do this - corners > parity fix > edges

what if I do the corners and go straight into the edges, then realise that I forgot to do parity? Is there a way out of this, or will I always fail? Can I do it at the end?

 

[Stefan]

another question, lets say I need to do this - corners > parity fix > edges

what if I do the corners and go straight into the edges, then realise that I forgot to do parity? Is there a way out of this, or will I always fail? Can I do it at the end?

Now would be the perfect time to start thinking.

 

[cookingfat]

ok, so you're saying just practice until I don't forget then? Makes sense I suppose, we all have to learn from mistakes.

In that case I need to think of something better that will make me remember whether or not to do parity.

 

[joey]

No, he wasn't saying just practise until you don't forget. Everyone forgets sometimes. He is saying think about the anwser to your question, think wether you can fix it later or not. (Or atleast I hope he is saying that, it's my interpretation!)

 

[cookingfat]

I've thought about it and came up with this (I should have actually thought about it first) if I don't do the parity after the corners, then the space I think I need to solve first won't actually be there (as it will be swapped with another edge), so all the edges will be wrong. Is that right?

also, if the first edge piece is already the buffer edge, does this count as an extra cycle (even though i've not reallystarted the edges)?



edit - more successes - 9:42 and a 10:22 (still using notes)

 

[Stefan]

Oh my god. Joey can read minds.

And no, not all edges will be wrong (unless you made other mistakes). I'll give you a hint. Exactly two edges and two corners will be wrong. Figure out why, and which.

The answer to your last question depends on what you're counting for, but probably it's "no". If you mean in the context of a formula for how to compute the number of targets, I strongly recommend you try to understand the formula. It's not rocket science.

 

[cookingfat]

I love how you make me think about things instead of just telling me, lol. seriously it helps. I think I got it, after corners if it needs parity fix then 2 edges are wrong (on the U face) and will not be where I remembered them. If I forget parity, then at the end, 2 edges and 2 corners will be wrong, but they could be anywhere.

and I figured out that you don't count an extra cycle if the first piece is the buffer piece. I'm getting there slowly, remember I've only been doing BLD for a couple of days.

edit - slowly migrating onto not using notes, I nearly did a solve today without notes, but I forgot 2 pieces. Also yesterday, I got to the end of my story when the cube should be solved but something didn't feel right. I realised I had not used the blue/white edge, so I solved the blue, then the white and to my surprise it worked. Also, it's becoming easier to remember which stickers I've solved already.