Unveiling of the most anticipated V-CUBE 3

[amostay2004]

They were arguably reasonable until they started deleting those comments that were thankfully screenshot because I would've missed it =P

 

[Godmil]

Everyone can tell that the torpedos are lifted from Dayan... what was the point in badgering them about it... when are you going to get a company to publicly admit that they use someone else's idea?
V-Cubes PR is a bit poor, but it just seems kinda human, the person is clearly emotionally connected to the product, and has a big beef with the fact that many Chinese companies are profiting from their initial designs.
I'm glad V-Cubes are using the latest cubing technologies... as well as allowing others to use theirs... I really don't see the need to 'demand an explanation'.

qqwref, it takes a long time to release a new product if you're just starting up a company, I can quite easily see them taking years to get the first one out the door. Also for releasing new cubes... it takes a lot of money (a hellava lot more than it does in China).

 

[~Adam~]

I'm looking forward to seeing the V4 with it's misalignment mech lifted straight from X's designs.
It's just too easy these days for 1 student to mass produce puzzles when they have a DeLorean to steal future V designs with.

 

[aronpm]

I'm looking forward to seeing the V4 with it's misalignment mech lifted straight from X's designs.
It's just too easy these days for 1 student to mass produce puzzles when they have a DeLorean to steal future V designs with.

Don't kid yourself, V-Cubes wouldn't bother with a misalignment mechanism.

 

[Pixel 6]

Sweet! A GuHong V2, and the knock-off V3 in the same month... I can't wait until Seven Towns releases their long awaited original V4!

- Pixel -

 

[~Adam~]

So are we now under the impression that V only took legal action against Dayan because they wanted to make a complete KO of their design, opposed to Dayan just using the conical concept put forward by V?

 

[Kirjava]

So are we now under the impression that V only took legal action against Dayan because they wanted to make a complete KO of their design, opposed to Dayan just using the conical concept put forward by V?

No.

 

[rubiksarlen]

I think we should start a new thread on this cos the argument has taken up like more than half of this thread.

 

[~Adam~]

I think we should start a new thread on this cos the argument has taken up like more than half of this thread.

Any V cube thread will end up like this. Probably better off making a new thread in a weeks time after the people who have wasted their money recieve their new GuHong, sorry I mean V-3.

 

[rubiksarlen]

Also, is it true that they sued other companies that produced pillowed 3x3s, like QJ and Mefferts?

 

[~Adam~]

Maybe. V probably think that you can own a shape.

 

[Bapao]

Although the pieces do look similar to those of a DaYan cube, the V-Cube pieces on the few pictures posted thus far look less "refined" IMO. I can imagine that the "V-Hong" will perform nicely, but I doubt it will be on par with the GuHong.

And although I don't agree with the manner by which some people are approaching V-Cube via their site, I'm slightly disappointed by V-Cubes general reactions from a PR point of view. Their attitude reminds me of the V-Cube/ DaYan copyright infringement thread back in the day. I'm not saying V-Cube should just suck up negative/confronting feedback, but I would like to see them taking a more professional approach to dealing with potential customer concerns and general criticism.

I doubt this discussion would have seemed as anti-V-Cube as it does if their stance were more diplomatic.

 

[qqwref]

qqwref, it takes a long time to release a new product if you're just starting up a company, I can quite easily see them taking years to get the first one out the door.

Yeah, in hindsight that didn't really surprise me, but it was still annoying because of how early they had initially promised a release. Now, though, it's weird to see such a long period between releases, especially when they don't make small improvements to their existing design (such as fixing the 6x6 core, or making adjustable centers). You can compare this to other companies that, although they are centered in China, still do come out with many new puzzles and modifications to older ones. I do remember seeing an improvement in the design of the invisible edges and obliques on the 6x6, but I can't confirm or deny whether it's actually included in the currently available V6.

Also for releasing new cubes... it takes a lot of money (a hellava lot more than it does in China).

Absolutely! But people still want to see new puzzles come out; a few years is a long time in a community that changes as fast as this one does. I know V-cubes is not fond of China (and I totally understand this, many cube manufacturers/modders/collectors aren't) but maybe producing everything in Greece was not a good long-term plan.


I think in general my attitude is not one of criticism of V-cubes, but one of disappointment. I don't think they are really wrong to do what they do (legally, morally, even business wise) but it's not the best decision they could take and they are not making the effort they should be making to get on the good side of the ever-growing worldwide speedcubing community.

 

[cookieyo145]

Crap im banned from their facebook page.

 

[BrainOfSweden]

^Me too. I can still read it, but I can't comment, regardless of me liking the page or not. They also deleted all posts that make them look bad, propably so that people will think their cubes are good -.-'

 

[cookieyo145]

It says someone commented, it would be interesting to know what they said.

 

[CheesePuffs]

Anyone have any reviews out?

 

[Stefan]

Ok fine.

They also deleted all posts that make them look bad, propably so that people will think their cubes are good

What did the deleted comments have to do with the quality of their cubes?

And you people trying sooooo hard to see evil ought to realize that you're talking about facebook. facebook! Since when is that the appropriate place for anything but fun/interesting/constructive talk? Never noticed there's only a like-button, no dislike-button? It's good that V-Cube deletes the clutter, doesn't have to be them trying to "hide" anything. Do you also think that whenever the mods in this forum delete something, they do so to hide something that made them look bad? Not all content is welcome, and that's nothing unusual or bad.

 

[jonlin]

Are V-cubes sold in any store at the moment or only from their website?

Yes. There is a store I found in the mall called "The marble brain games" where I found a v cube 5, 7, and pillowed 2. I bought the 7x7.
I'm regretting it because it sucks ****.

 

[JLarsen]

Even though this PR guy was astonishingly unprofessional, and (he? most likely) removed what made him look bad, I'm not going to throw the whole company under the bus as a result. It seems to me that V Cube is trying to gain back the hearts of the speedsolving community with things like the V3 and the adjustable screw sets for 5-7. I was quick to get angry as an initial response to this whole drama but I really hope that everyone can take a step back and see this from the perspective of that guy on Facebook, and not generalize Verdes, or the company as evil or mean.