[Help Thread] What should I learn next?

[OreKehStrah]

OLL for sure. There’s only a handful of WV cases that are considered worth it and it comes up was less frequently. Just stick to the basics for now!

 

[RainbowsAndStuff]

Should I learn Winter variation or OLL first?and then after that i learn COLL. Which one do i learn?

OLL 100%

i’m sub 14 and i still haven’t learnt wv but oll got me thie far and I wouldn’t be able to get here without learning it

 

[Thom S.]

If you care about getting fast, OLL -> COLL/WV
Most cubers who are fast don't start incorporating COLL or parts of OLS(which WV is part of) before reaching 12-10 seconds globally.
If you just want to have fun, learning EOLS/COLL/EPLL or EO/reduced OLS/PLL is a nice alternative, but more moves and(OLS) more algorithms.
Most CFOP users say OLL/PLL is plenty and they do have a point.
Also, most CFOP users don't like having to learn a new recognition system for COLL.
As for me, I use COLL for 3 Years simply because I like COLL and dislike OLL

This is the answer you need, but I can see the 'Everything apart OLL/PLL bad' Gang creeping up.

 

[hellocubers]

Alright. I'm going to learn OLL once I learn the V Perm and the 4 G perms.
Thanks for the responses.

 

[Puzzlerr]

Okay, so I (hopefully) have a comp in a month, and I only have a few OLLs left to learn, and after I learn that what do I learn next (I already plan on learning a bunch of F2l algs)
also, I average mid 17s
EDIT: I won't learn anything new except for those few OLLS, but what should I learn after the comp?

 

[Garf]

Okay, so I (hopefully) have a comp in a month, and I only have a few OLLs left to learn, and after I learn that what do I learn next (I already plan on learning a bunch of F2l algs)
also, I average mid 17s

Note: do NOT learn anything new before a comp. Instead, take what you know and practice those techniques, such as lookahead, f2l olls, Plls, etc. Learn those last few OLL, but then start drilling all of your LL algs, makings sure they're the best they can be for the comp.
Actually, give one more week of learning, then you starting the reinforcing.

 

[Puzzlerr]

Note: do NOT learn anything new before a comp. Instead, take what you know and practice those techniques, such as lookahead, f2l olls, Plls, etc. Learn those last few OLL, but then start drilling all of your LL algs, makings sure they're the best they can be for the comp.
Actually, give one more week of learning, then you starting the reinforcing.

Alright thanks! What should I learn after the comp then I guess

 

[Eli Apperson]

Okay, so I (hopefully) have a comp in a month, and I only have a few OLLs left to learn, and after I learn that what do I learn next (I already plan on learning a bunch of F2l algs)
also, I average mid 17s
EDIT: I won't learn anything new except for those few OLLS, but what should I learn after the comp?

Finish your OLL's as fast as possible, then instead of learning new algs, figure out how the algs work, and view them from an intuitive perspective. Then drill all the cases.

 

[IsThatA4x4]

Yea I would say progression looks a bit like OLL > partial WV/COLL -> ZBLS/ZBLL tricks

 

[Timona]

If you're gonna learn WV, it means you always have to guarantee that you get your last F2L pair and EO, every single solve, might not be worth it.
But knowing OLL guarantees that once your F2L is done, you can easily complete your solve.

 

[OreKehStrah]

Another cool option is switching to EOCross ZZ as you only need 7 OLLs and the 21 PLLs to get fast. The main problem is just that inspection becomes a lot more difficult.

 

[abunickabhi]

Why not learn both the sets?

 

[abunickabhi]

Learn ZBLL it is super useful.

On a sidenote, learn 5-style so that you can amass an insane MBLD score.

 

[Thom S.]

Another cool option is switching to EOCross ZZ as you only need 7 OLLs and the 21 PLLs to get fast. The main problem is just that inspection becomes a lot more difficult.

Using ZZ of course changes the answer.

 

[Quốc Hưng]

Using ZZ of course changes the answer.

._. It will be less alg.

 

[Puzzlerr]

Learn ZBLL it is super useful.

On a sidenote, learn 5-style so that you can amass an insane MBLD score.

what is 5 style?

 

[Garf]

what is 5 style?

Well, you have M2, which swaps 1 edge using the M slice. Then you have 3-style, which solves 2 pieces, but swaps 3 pieces at one using commutators. 5-style has the same idea as 3-style: solves 4 edges, but swaps 5 edges at once using commutators.
M2, 3-style and 5-style are all methods for 3-blind

 

[Puzzlerr]

Well, you have M2, which swaps 1 edge using the M slice. Then you have 3-style, which solves 2 pieces, but swaps 3 pieces at one using commutators. 5-style has the same idea as 3-style: solves 4 edges, but swaps 5 edges at once using commutators.
M2, 3-style and 5-style are all methods for 3-blind

what do you learn when you first start blind

 

[OreKehStrah]

what do you learn when you first start blind

Learn M2/OP for solving the edges and corners respectively.

 

[froge]

what should i do after learning pll? should i learn oll or more f2l?