Nir1213's Quest to Sub-20 with CFOP!

guys do you think my f2l should be at 20 seconds to get sub 30 with CFOP? or lower? Just asking.

Probably. This can be done by handscrambling the cube and then doing the cross and F2L, and so on. You could also do slow solves to reduce your flaws and avoid doing many mistakes instead of turning fast.

And if you feel that your recognition and fingertricks for last layer cases are quite slow or bad then you could also practice that.
 
guys do you think my f2l should be at 20 seconds to get sub 30 with CFOP? or lower? Just asking.
I just reached sub 30,and my F2L is about 16 seconds, but my last layer is quite slow. It depends how good your other steps are, but as a general guide your cross should take 5% of your solve, F2l should be 55%, OLL 20% and PLL 20%.
 
Well then improve your cross and f2l
not helping.



aight i think my cross is fine, doesnt have to be 4 seconds flat. F2L is a problem, though. I get stuck on 22 - 24 seconds, and i think a way to fix that is to have less regrips and learn more advanced cases, i should also be used to inserting pairs into the back slot.

For LL im going to learn full PLL, but not yet.
 
at your level timing and improving certain areas of your solve is quite useless. The best way to improve at 30s ish is just to do solves
but j perm said to have 4 second cross, 16 second f2l, which in total is 20 seconds. My f2l is a few seconds slower than that.
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but j perm said to have 4 second cross, 16 second f2l, which in total is 20 seconds. My f2l is a few seconds slower than that.
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That's an average, not a requirement. If you're fast at LL, then you can have a slower F2L. If perhaps you can get a really fast Cross, then it's ok if you're slow at OLL. You don't need to have exactly those times, but you should aim for around there.
 
That's an average, not a requirement. If you're fast at LL, then you can have a slower F2L. If perhaps you can get a really fast Cross, then it's ok if you're slow at OLL. You don't need to have exactly those times, but you should aim for around there.
ok i guess, but i still will try to remove my bad habits in f2l. Thanks for the response.
 
For sub 30 its absolutely Crucial to have really efficient f2l cases for almost any case so learn more efficient f2l before full pll or anything like that. F2l is more important than ll when your not sub-30 yet.
 
For sub 30 its absolutely Crucial to have really efficient f2l cases for almost any case so learn more efficient f2l before full pll or anything like that. F2l is more important than ll when your not sub-30 yet.
PLL is good to learn early on, though, because then by the time you are sub-20 you will have good familiarity with PLL and thus will have time for full OLL. I think full PLL and good basic F2L are equally important for people approaching sub 30
 
bit of a bump... I havent improved at all because of school. I learned some advanced f2l cases tho, im waiting for the christmas break so i can practice all day.


On my f2l i think i improved a bit from the advanced f2l cases, but i need to learn more. My recog is slow.
 
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