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why do you even need to learn zbf2l and 4lll for sub 1 minute. I know two people who are sub 1 with R U R' U' for permuting and orienting and only know how to do h perms z perms nd both the u perms I find it pointless to make a thread which can be achieved by doing 200 to 500 solves
 

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why do you even need to learn zbf2l and 4lll for sub 1 minute. I know two people who are sub 1 with R U R' U' for permuting and orienting and only know how to do h perms z perms nd both the u perms I find it pointless to make a thread which can be achieved by doing 200 to 500 solves

I'm setting up OP for long term success,
Everybody is different. I've taught lots of people different methods. ZBF2L + 7OLL is by far the least amount of information to learn for speedsolving at 15-20 seconds average.
 
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i was jk but why does he have to criticize
It's a forum, anybody is open to criticism.
I'm setting up OP for long term success,
Everybody is different. I've taught lots of people different methods. ZBF2L + 7OLL is by far the least amount of information to learn for speedsolving at 15-20 seconds average.
Overall, OLL is better than ZBF2L + 7 OLL.
 

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I'm setting up OP for long term success,
Everybody is different. I've taught lots of people different methods. ZBF2L + 7OLL is by far the least amount of information to learn for speedsolving at 15-20 seconds average.
yes your right. Learning ZBF2L in beginners method will no just make me sub 1 min, but maybe even sub 50 seconds.
It's a forum, anybody is open to criticism.
oh well i guess i need to be armed.
Overall, OLL is better than ZBF2L + 7 OLL.
you meant "Full OLL"
 

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why do you even need to learn zbf2l and 4lll for sub 1 minute. I know two people who are sub 1 with R U R' U' for permuting and orienting and only know how to do h perms z perms nd both the u perms I find it pointless to make a thread which can be achieved by doing 200 to 500 solves
i might as well already be sub 1 minute, might rename this to sub 50 sec avg quest. But that wont be necessary as when i complete this goal im going to switch to more advanced methods.

OLL is fine.
normal oll not the full one has long algs ZBF2L is basically oll without the long algs you know that?
 

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normal oll not the full one has long algs ZBF2L is basically oll without the long algs you know that?

But full OLL is shorter than ZBF2L, in number of algs. And lots of OLLs are short and fast to execute and recognize.
 
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