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New Events for the Weekly Competition Website for 2020

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Natanael

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I can’t deny that, but in 10 minutes most should come up with a decent solution, not only the ones who one-look. But if you don’t like it, don’t vote for it.
 
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Speed fmc, curvy copter, and 3x3 with no inspection.
EDIT: I also think feet should be removed and master and normal magic should be added. No offense feet lovers it’s just weird.
EDIT 2: wow I’m realizing I want a lot of things lol. 4OH. Not 2oh because it’s just dumb.
+1 for 4OH
+1 for Speed FMC
+1 for Curvy Copter
+1 for 3x3 with no inspection
+1 for magic
+1 for master magic.
 
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+1 for 15 puzzle!

(And I know negative votes don't count here, but I'll put a −1 for PLL time attack anyway. It's the exact same thing every time—like, not even Clock is literally the exact same every solve, and that's a common complaint about Clock. I guess you could sort of salvage the idea by having the "scramble" be a specified order in which you have to do the PLL algs, but how many people even know the names of the four G perms, or which R perm is which?)
 

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People 1-look the 2x2 in less than 15 seconds
I don’t think this is relevant here, as a 1-looked speedsolving solution would be absolutely horrid to say the least for 2x2 FMC. I’m sorry, I believe you were you thinking of 2x2 BLD? Hehe :p

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TL;DR Basically I’m saying 2x2 FMC is completely luck-based.

But for 2x2 FMC is that it’s extremely luck based, and even if you give me just 5 minutes I can often find an optimal solution. My current ao12 PB is 9.167 moves, which wasn’t terribly lucky, but if it was in the weekly comp, I would suspect it would be a mo3, which is basically 100% luck based, and if I recall correctly I have gotten a 7.33 rolling mo3 inside one of my ao12’s, despite the fact that I have only done about four 2x2 FMC ao12’s ever in total, or only 50 attempts in total, so I haven’t had the chance to get extremely lucky. I would suspect that if it was a mo3, results could get down to perhaps the 5’s (5.667 mean?) after not much time at all.
Although just a random note, I do not find optimal solutions 100% of the time, I don't know the exact percentage but perhaps it’s 60%?, so there is still a little bit of a skill involved, but much, much too little.

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+1 For Speed FMC

But now I’m wondering how exactly score is counted in Speed FMC? Is it (√seconds)*movecount ? I really, REALLY just want the system that counts points to reward solutions that are in the 30’s that were found and typed in 4 or 5 minutes more than a speedsolving solution in the 60’s typed out in a minute. In this case, using this very simple formula, (√280)*35= 586 and (√60)*65 = 503. Hmmmm. Not what I’m looking for. I don’t want this formula used, because the solutions with the less skill level involved would get you the lowest score. That’s not right. Does anybody know the real formula for calculating Speed FMC results?
Edit: Never mind, I found it lol. Kit Clement literally posted it in this thread. How did I not see that xD
It’s Score = HTM Movecount * Natural log of Number of Seconds used. Lowest score wins. I actually didn’t know what ‘In’ meant in that formula, so I had to search it up lol. I guess I haven’t taken 12th grade level math :p I did some messing around with this formula, and I really like it, (a whole lot more than my sqrt one). I vote that Kit’s formula should be he one implemented in the website. Also, I would suspect that getting a sub-200 points would be a difficult feat not done by many.
 
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I would like to mention something that hasnt been mentioned yet I think:
15 Puzzle!

Since there is a really good magnetic version out now it is really fun to do it as a speedsolving event :)
I did not know this! I love 15 puzzle, but could you direct me to the link? And +1 for 15 puzzle.
+1 for curvy copter I guess *retroactively removing this*
I propose clock OH. With a “new” clock coming out by the cubicle, I think it’s time to introduce more ways of solving.
and yeh, PLL time attack is dumb. I use roux and don’t know full-PLL
 
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I did not know this! I love 15 puzzle, but could you direct me to the link? And +1 for 15 puzzle.
+1 for curvy copter I guess
I propose clock OH. With a “new” clock coming out by the cubicle, I think it’s time to introduce more ways of solving.
and yeh, PLL time attack is dumb. I use roux and don’t know full-PLL

I found it here for example: https://fabitasia.ch/qiyi-15puzzle
 
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I would absolutely love competing in Mirror Blocks, 2 Gen, LSE, and Speed FMC. PLL Time Attack would be nice as well :). If I had to add another one, I think sighted BLD would be fun, where you don’t get inspection time and you just solve using BLD Comms

+1 Mirror Cube/Mirror Blocks
+1 2Gen
+1 LSE
+1 Speed FMC
+1 PLL Time Attack
+1 Sighted BLD

I would absolutely love competing in Mirror Blocks, 2 Gen, LSE, and Speed FMC. PLL Time Attack would be nice as well :). If I had to add another one, I think sighted BLD would be fun, where you don’t get inspection time and you just solve using BLD Comms

+1 Mirror Cube/Mirror Blocks
+1 2Gen
+1 LSE
+1 Speed FMC
+1 PLL Time Attack
+1 Sighted BLD
Oh, also 15 Puzzle. That one is super fun to do and I want to get better at it

+1 15 Puzzle
 

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Keep feet! I personally don't enjoy solving with my feet, but there is no reason to remove it. I'd like to address the most common complaints about feet:

"It's disgusting"

And solving a cube with your hands isn't? Hands are just as dirty, if not more so, then feet are.

"It's weird"

Excuse me for saying so, but anyone who spends as much time as we do turning a colored block is extremely weird.

"It gives cubing a bad reputation"

How many non-cubers actually know that there are people who solve Rubik's cubes with their feet? I personally think it's super cool that someone has solved a cube in 16 seconds with their feet.


I've only done a feet solve once, so if any avid feet-solvers would like to give some input, that would be great.
 

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I certainly will not consider dropping feet this year. The WCA has not yet indicated that feet will be dropped officially, and I intend to support all official WCA events in the competition always. I actually think the proper thing to do is to keep any WCA event that is dropped for at least one year after it is officially dropped (so our competition can be a bit of a buffer when an official event is dropped), so the earliest I could possibly consider dropping feet would be 2021. (And by the way, I will personally vote against dropping it!)

I will probably start a new thread in the next day or two to discuss the future of the relays, so you might want to save discussion on that issue until that thread is opened.
 
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