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New Events for the Weekly Competition Website for 2020

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DGCubes

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+1 for speed FMC
+1 for Curvy Copter
+1 for 3x3x4
+1 for 3x3x5

I think cuboids are really unique and underappreciated. The solve requires many different steps and concepts that aren't seen on other cubes (this is especially true for 3x3x5), and it'd be great to get an opportunity to speedsolve them! :)
 

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remove feet plz
From the Weekly Comp? I'm well aware you don't like Feet, but that just screams Vendetta. How did 3x3 With Feet ever hurt you?

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On a lighter note: here is a summary of the positive votes in this thread, lest it turn into a love fest for Speed FMC and other great ideas get overlooked because they were just mentioned a couple of times:


Event

Votes

Speed FMC

10​

Curvy Copter (Jumbled)

8​

PLL Time Attack

5​

Mirror Cube

4​

Ivy Cube

3​

Master Kilominx

3​

2Gen

2​

2x2x3

2​

5-7 Relay

2​

LSE

2​

Megaminx BLD

2​

Speed Blind

2​

Square-1 BLD

2​

Team BLD

2​

2x2 OH

1​

3 3x3 relay

1​

3x3x2

1​

3x3x4

1​

3x3x5

1​

4x4 OH

1​

BLD Mirror Blocks No Inspection

1​

Cuboids?

1​

Magic

1​

Master Magic

1​

Pyraminx BLD

1​

I have added my new votes for Master Kilominx and Megaminx BLD to the totals.
 
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From the Weekly Comp? I'm well aware you don't like Feet, but that just screams Vendetta. How did 3x3 With Feet ever hurt you?

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On a lighter note: here is a summary of the positive votes in this thread, lest it turn into a love fest for Speed FMC and other great ideas get overlooked because they were just mentioned a couple of times:

Event

Votes

Speed FMC


10​


Curvy Copter (Jumbled)


8​


PLL Time Attack


5​


Mirror Cube


4​


Ivy Cube


3​


Master Kilominx


3​


2Gen


2​


2x2x3


2​


5-7 Relay


2​


LSE


2​


Megaminx BLD


2​


Speed Blind


2​


Square-1 BLD


2​


Team BLD


2​


2x2 OH


1​


3 3x3 relay


1​


3x3x2


1​


3x3x4


1​


3x3x5


1​


4x4 OH


1​


BLD Mirror Blocks No Inspection


1​


Cuboids?


1​


Magic


1​


Master Magic


1​


Pyraminx BLD


1​

I have added my new votes for Master Kilominx and Megaminx BLD to the totals.
That’s with the assumption that it gets removed in 2020, if it does get removed then feet probably wouldn’t have a whole lot of competitors and would kinda just be a waste of space on the weekly site.
 

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That’s with the assumption that it gets removed in 2020, if it does get removed then feet probably wouldn’t have a whole lot of competitors and would kinda just be a waste of space on the weekly site.
I got a 1:31.52 average this week and got 10th place. In 2016 I once got a 3:04.76 average and got 2nd place. Feet is not simply disappearing because a few people got their panties in a bunch and got the ear of the WCA.
 
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That’s with the assumption that it gets removed in 2020, if it does get removed then feet probably wouldn’t have a whole lot of competitors and would kinda just be a waste of space on the weekly site.
You could say the same for a lot of the relays. I just think that it doesn’t make sense to remove it at all. It’s popular now, and this could provide an incentive to continue practice for it in lieu of the WCA. I think, personally, that a lot of the events on there are dumb, but I’m not about to advocate their removal because I understand that some people enjoy them, regardless of their official status.

From the Weekly Comp? I'm well aware you don't like Feet, but that just screams Vendetta. How did 3x3 With Feet ever hurt you?

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On a lighter note: here is a summary of the positive votes in this thread, lest it turn into a love fest for Speed FMC and other great ideas get overlooked because they were just mentioned a couple of times:

Event

Votes

Speed FMC


10​


Curvy Copter (Jumbled)


8​


PLL Time Attack


5​


Mirror Cube


4​


Ivy Cube


3​


Master Kilominx


3​


2Gen


2​


2x2x3


2​


5-7 Relay


2​


LSE


2​


Megaminx BLD


2​


Speed Blind


2​


Square-1 BLD


2​


Team BLD


2​


2x2 OH


1​


3 3x3 relay


1​


3x3x2


1​


3x3x4


1​


3x3x5


1​


4x4 OH


1​


BLD Mirror Blocks No Inspection


1​


Cuboids?


1​


Magic


1​


Master Magic


1​


Pyraminx BLD


1​

I have added my new votes for Master Kilominx and Megaminx BLD to the totals.
Mike Hughey, could you copy/paste this and add it to the first post? (With One Wheel’s permission of course) If not that’s fine, but I’d like to be able to easily find the chart.

Is there actually any demand for Megaminx BLD? I was not aware that anyone was doing it regularly.
I think no one is doing it regularly because for two reasons:
1. It has a high level of entry
2. There isn’t a way to compete currently

This is also true for sq-1 bld, and also pyra bld to an extent.
 
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I got a 1:31.52 average this week and got 10th place. In 2016 I once got a 3:04.76 average and got 2nd place. Feet is not simply disappearing because a few people got their panties in a bunch and got the ear of the WCA.
Yeah I get it, feet is improving lol. It’s already pretty unpopular for the weekly comps and if it was removed officially I could see numbers dropping even more.

You could say the same for a lot of the relays. I just think that it doesn’t make sense to remove it at all. It’s popular now, and this could provide an incentive to continue practice for it in lieu of the WCA. I think, personally, that a lot of the events on there are dumb, but I’m not about to advocate their removal because I understand that some people enjoy them, regardless of their official status.
I definitely wouldn’t mind relays getting modified or removed. They also have pretty low participation and are extremely repetitive (there isn’t a need for 2-4 and 2-5 and 2-6 and 2-7). The only reason I would want events to be removed from the weekly comps is because they clutter results while only providing a few people with enjoyment. (Official events are excluded from this because they are official :p)
 

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The only reason I would want events to be removed from the weekly comps is because they clutter results while only providing a few people with enjoyment.
Even if it only provides a few people with enjoyment, if it isn’t too much work for the organizers it’s worth it.

I can see a clear argument for removing the 2-6 relay, but everything else, even if I have no interest in competing in it, is good and worthwhile.

For the record: I support removing the 2-6 relay because it doesn’t add anything new, and could make room for another event, but personally I actually really enjoy competing in the event.
 

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I apologize - the latter half of this year has been rather busy and I have not been able to spend as much time on the competition website as I would like. There are still good things in store, the most significant being to integrate the competition website with the Forum.

Last year I promised I would again consider the possibility of adding new events for the Weekly Competition this year. Again, I don't want to frivolously add new events, but I do want to give the community the chance to possibly add events if there truly is demand for it. Because my time is limited, I will not be willing to consider this year adding any events that would require significant changes to the website, so unfortunately things like team events (which would involve complications in statistics handling) will not be considered this year. But simple additions of puzzles, or other things that don't require more than adding a new event and scrambles, are things I could certainly handle.

As I did last year, I will use the average weekly participation in our competition this year as a numeric "justification" for going forward. This year the average participation per week has been approximately 223.

Since I am getting a later start this year than last, the schedule will be accelerated, which might mean it's a little harder for an event to get added. Probably, that's not such a bad thing.

On this thread, I will take suggestions for events. Any event that gets at least 11 recommendations (5% of the weekly average of participants) over the next two weeks (ending 2019/12/08) will get its own poll thread. Note that to count as a recommendation, you must actually post on this thread with a statement that you would like to see the event added. Likes will not count as recommendations - you must actually post the recommendation yourself in order for it to count as one of the 11 needed recommendations.

The poll threads will then be open for about 2 weeks, until December 24. The poll will be worded such that an upvote implies that the voter BOTH wants the event added AND intends to compete in it if possible, while a downvote implies that the voter specifically does not want the event added. At that point, any event that receives at least 23 upvotes (hence over 10% of the weekly average of participants) AND ALSO has more upvotes than downvotes will be eligible to be added to the competition. However, I will add no more than 2 events this year, so if more than 2 events reach this threshold, only the top 2 will be added. I will close the poll threads after the deadline is reached.

Last year, this method seemed to work okay, and while the two new events (master pyraminx and redi cube) were not overly popular, they did have sufficient participation to make for some interesting results, and overall I am glad I added both events. I admit I personally really enjoy master pyraminx - it's now one of my favorite puzzles to solve.

Just to start us off, I personally would like to see the following event added, so I will count this as one recommendation for it:
Curvy Copter (jumbled)

In your response, please make clear the events that you wish to see added.

Results so far as tabulated by OneWheel at time of this edit (results not verified by me yet and so subject to possible edit):

Event

Votes

Speed FMC


10​


Curvy Copter (Jumbled)


8​


PLL Time Attack


5​


Mirror Cube


4​


Ivy Cube


3​


Master Kilominx


3​


2Gen


2​


2x2x3


2​


5-7 Relay


2​


LSE


2​


Megaminx BLD


2​


Speed Blind


2​


Square-1 BLD


2​


Team BLD


2​


2x2 OH


1​


3 3x3 relay


1​


3x3x2


1​


3x3x4


1​


3x3x5


1​


4x4 OH


1​


BLD Mirror Blocks No Inspection


1​


Cuboids?


1​


Magic


1​


Master Magic


1​


Pyraminx BLD


1​

2x2 OH all the way
 

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+1 Curvy Copter (jumbled) - Don't own one yet, but this fascinates me as an event that is sufficiently different from existing WCA events that maybe it can get on the official roster at some point. We won't really know its potential until we can get people competing for times.
 

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+1 Speed FMC

But I hope there will be a better possibility for seamless interaction between "the weekly competition website", "alg.cubing.net", "bluetooth.cubing.net" and my giiker smartcube. I guess Lucas Garron would be the one who would have the main work load in this.
 

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Is there actually any demand for Megaminx BLD? I was not aware that anyone was doing it regularly.
I agree, there are only 19 people (since I've last checked) that have gotten a megaminx BLD success, and although there are a few individuals (me included) who wants to learn megaBLD, there probably won't be active competitors. More people have got 6 and 7bld successes and already only 0-2 people compete every week. Also agree with Mike Hughey to keep them, I really like them, and having them stare me in the face since I actively started competiting on weekly comps in mid 2018 might be the reason I got to attempting both those. Time is one of the reasons I can't compete every week..

+1 Master Kilominx, might make me get one, dodecahedron's are intriguing although I don't practice megaminx at all.
 
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+1 for curvy copter
+1 for pll time attack
+1 for speedBLD
I also like speed FMC but that's already through
reasons:
curvy copter looks cool and although I don't own one I think its a unique puzzle and therefore has its place
pll time attack is just TPS spam but if there is going to be a tps spam event pll time attack is the best, also the weekly comps os for practicing and giving us motivation to improve and this can help us drill one of the most important parts of 3x3 (sorry roux users but currently cfop is most popular maybe if this gets added and is higly competed in we could add CMLL time attack)
speedBLD is pretty cool and would be an interesting thing to add, also if people can't be bothered to do full attempts they can always just do 3BLD exec with safe memo and therefore good think ahead, so I think participation would be decent.
 
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