One-Answer WCA Competition and Regulations Question Thread

[CarterK]

Is it illegal for the cube to fall on the timer/timer then lap after releasing it?

That's a +2

 

[joshsailscga]

Is it illegal for the cube to fall on the timer/timer then lap after releasing it?

• A6e) After releasing the puzzle, the competitor must not touch or move the puzzle until the judge has inspected the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF). Exception: If no moves have been applied, a time penalty (+2 seconds) may be assigned instead, at the discretion of the judge

Looks like the lap could possibly be argued to be a +2. I thought I had seen something in the rules before about puzzles on timers but I am either mistaken or just missed it.
(Disclaimer: I am not a delegate)

 

[Duncan Bannon]

Thank you guys! So if it touches the timer its okay, it just cant touch me.

 

[CarterK]

Thank you guys! So if it touches the timer its okay, it just cant touch me.

if it's touching the timer after it stops that's a plus 2, but if it hits the timer on the way down it's too hard to tell if it hit it or not, so that's fine.

 

[AlphaSheep]

• A6e) After releasing the puzzle, the competitor must not touch or move the puzzle until the judge has inspected the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF). Exception: If no moves have been applied, a time penalty (+2 seconds) may be assigned instead, at the discretion of the judge

Looks like the lap could possibly be argued to be a +2. I thought I had seen something in the rules before about puzzles on timers but I am either mistaken or just missed it.
(Disclaimer: I am not a delegate)

It doesn't have to be argued. It's written clearly in the guidelines:

• A6e+) CLARIFICATION If the puzzle falls into the lap of the competitor after stopping the timer, this is considered touching the puzzle.

if it's touching the timer after it stops that's a plus 2, but if it hits the timer on the way down it's too hard to tell if it hit it or not, so that's fine.

The penalty for the cube touching the timer isn't in the regulations any more, anyway if I recall correctly, that was only for starting the solve, not stopping it.

 

[CarterK]

It doesn't have to be argued. It's written clearly in the guidelines:

• A6e+) CLARIFICATION If the puzzle falls into the lap of the competitor after stopping the timer, this is considered touching the puzzle.

The penalty for the cube touching the timer isn't in the regulations any more, anyway if I recall correctly, that was only for starting the solve, not stopping it.

hmmm. I know there was a penalty for it touching the timer after the solve, but I'll check for this year.

 

[joshsailscga]

It doesn't have to be argued. It's written clearly in the guidelines:

• A6e+) CLARIFICATION If the puzzle falls into the lap of the competitor after stopping the timer, this is considered touching the puzzle.

Wow, I never knew the guidelines existed until now. Thanks!

 

[Ronxu]

hmmm. I know there was a penalty for it touching the timer after the solve, but I'll check for this year.

That has never been a penalty.

 

[CarterK]

That has never been a penalty.

I swear I've been told that there would be a +2 if that happened. Guess not.

 

[Tra23]

Is it cheating when you corner twist when unsolvable

 

[MatsBergsten]

Is it cheating when you corner twist when unsolvable

WCA regulations says it is not cheating - excerpt from there:

5b3c) If the puzzle is unsolvable, and can be made solvable by rotating a single corner piece, the competitor may correct the corner piece by twisting it in place without disassembling the puzzle.

 

[Kumato]

If I am a judge, should I say the 8/12 seconds alert? Or is it considered rude because the competitor is trying to concentrate?

 

[JustAnotherGenericCuber]

• A3d2) When 8 seconds of inspection have elapsed, the judge calls "8 SECONDS".
• A3d3) When 12 seconds of inspection have elapsed, the judge calls "12 SECONDS".

 

[Tabe]

If I am a judge, should I say the 8/12 seconds alert? Or is it considered rude because the competitor is trying to concentrate?

Not only "should" you say them, you're REQUIRED to say them.

 

[FastCubeMaster]

If I am a judge, should I say the 8/12 seconds alert? Or is it considered rude because the competitor is trying to concentrate?

What the others have said is right, but keep in mind you call have to the times out until the solver has started, after that, you don't call them anymore. And if they have their hands on the stackmat, you still call it

 

[Ronxu]

If I am a judge, should I say the 8/12 seconds alert? Or is it considered rude because the competitor is trying to concentrate?

How do you have a WCA profile?

• 2t) Each competitor must be familiar with and understand the WCA Regulations before the competition.

 

[Kumato]

thanks everyone!

How do you have a WCA profile?

• 2t) Each competitor must be familiar with and understand the WCA Regulations before the competition.

not really sure what you are asking...

 

[joshsailscga]

If I am a judge, should I say the 8/12 seconds alert? Or is it considered rude because the competitor is trying to concentrate?

The strict by-the-book answer has been given previously. For more insight into why, think of it this way: I can totally understand that you might be worried about breaking the competitor's concentration. But the competitor is not able to track how much time has passed. It would be much worse, from their end, to just suddenly be told their result must be DNF because they overinspected accidentally. That's the reason behind why you give them those time announcements.

 

[CarterK]

thanks everyone!


not really sure what you are asking...

He's saying that since you have a WCA profile, you should know the regs.

 

[Kumato]

Thanks!