[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[Berd]

I think doing two opposite centers would be more efficient but then it would just be a different variation of using meyer method I don't know the BLD method but using R or L slice and pairing edges in the M slice would probably be faster

Yeah that center method would be better actually. r2 does use the m slice [emoji14]

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

But there are more long algs rather than the edge pairing being intuitive and more efficient

 

[Berd]

But there are more long algs rather than the edge pairing being intuitive and more efficient

True, it's more of a fun method really...

 

[TDM]

I always thought about a 4x4 method of the following:
1st center to 1st block
2nd center to 2nd block
Cmll
Solve remaining edges with r2 blind method
Lse

Any thoughts?

so... Stadler, except you don't actually solve four of the centres?

 

[Berd]

so... Stadler, except you don't actually solve four of the centres?

Oops forgot that [emoji14]

 

[Ross The Boss]

ohey, i finally managed a sub10 single with pseudo blocks... im surprised that hasnt happened before. weird

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

ohey, i finally managed a sub10 single with pseudo blocks... im surprised that hasnt happened before. weird

I've still only used it 3 or 4 times when it was like a 5 move second pseudo block

 

[GuRoux]

ohey, i finally managed a sub10 single with pseudo blocks... im surprised that hasnt happened before. weird

i've only done psuedo blocks once in a speed solve, on twisttheweb against alex. i started with yellow on bottom for first block but couldn't find any yellow pieces for second block so i just did white on bottom. then got a sune case and thought i must be screwed. randomly did a niklas and it worked. i think it was 9.5 or something.

 

[Ross The Boss]

I've still only used it 3 or 4 times when it was like a 5 move second pseudo block

ive been doing them for a few years, but i still worry once i realize ive committed to an opposite D colour second block :/

 

[Berd]

Oooooooo I do non matching blocks sometimes, corner permutation is the worst tho

 

[TDM]

I used to do them occasionally, but never do them now. Recognition and ARF are too slow imo.

 

[Ross The Boss]

Tbh, the hardest part of pseudo blocks is the auf before 4C

 

[Ross The Boss]

Can any long time roux users comment on roux popularity over time? It seems like it was less common in 2012 when i started, and hit a surge of popularity sometime around 2014/13. but seeing as i dont have a very long time-line to consider, i cant trust my observations seeing as my exposure to cubers and methods increased over the same frame.

it would also be interesting to hear about how (if) the school of thought surrounding the method evolved. like, what did people like about the method? what was considered bad? what did outsiders think of roux? what techniques were seen as promising, etc...

much appreciated

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Can any long time roux users comment on roux popularity over time? It seems like it was less common in 2012 when i started, and hit a surge of popularity sometime around 2014/13. but seeing as i dont have a very long time-line to consider, i cant trust my observations seeing as my exposure to cubers and methods increased over the same frame.

it would also be interesting to hear about how (if) the school of thought surrounding the method evolved. like, what did people like about the method? what was considered bad? what did outsiders think of roux? what techniques were seen as promising, etc...

much appreciated

This should be interesting. Waffo should have a good answer. Hes been around long nuff.

 

[Ross The Boss]

yee, old-man-manalang gonna sit us down for stories 'bout the times long b'fore us youngens was cubin' about!

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

yee, old-man-manalang gonna sit us down for stories 'bout the times long b'fore us youngens was cubin' about!

Yup. Man-manalang sounds funny.

 

[Ross The Boss]

jules says:

When I started Roux there were 4 users I knew, Richard Meyer, Peter Greenwood, Kir, and Roux.

It wasn't that people thought Roux was bad, rather just no one had really explored it at the time. No resources. Also our cubes were complete shite. Also a lot of us were ****ing elitist *******s.

It didn't matter how much potential a method has if there is no one to tap it. And without concrete evidence of achievable speeds why should I use that method? When I started Roux method was only 3 years old. But Roux himself had sub-15 official average, this was enough for me to use this method. But probably not for most people

So I would way that the sudden increase in numbers would be a result of people like Big Green, Arvind and Alex popping into the scene. Big Green had a big impact but it wasn't enough to really get the ball rolling and Alex kind of punting it to where it is now. It's just like how Fazzles dominates the nub population. Nubs want only to what the fastest do.

The school of thought with Roux. It's very very fun. The reason was in order to get fast you either had to make **** up yourself or wait on the 3 other people to make **** up. There were no real developments and all in all just turned into a circle jerk who just wanted to develop something so they could be plastered all over the cubing community as the guy who made "blah" (example MBR)

I feel like most cubers just feel indifferent about most cubing things unless it has solid proof of being good. People don't think good/bad/otherwise until then. Then you get good and people will have good thoughts (constructive criticism, positive appeal) bad thoughts (method insecurity, method fanboying, method shaming). These things only really come when a method already has traction and it did not back then.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

jules says:

I remember readin this somewhere...

 

[Ross The Boss]

your probably mistaken as he just posted it on facebook a minute ago. (i dont think your in the group so thats why i doubt)

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

your probably mistaken as he just posted it on facebook a minute ago. (i dont think your in the group so thats why i doubt)

I am mistaken, but I remember him saying something similar like how he had to either make **** up or wait for the other 3 people to make **** up.