Should WCA Bring Back Age Statistics?

[newtonbase]

Age stats do seem popular amongst older cubers. It would give some of us a chance to be competitive.

I like the idea of only using the birth year for security. A bit like racehorses.

 

[sneaklyfox]

Age should change on January 1.

 

[PhillipEspinoza]

Aside from the physical aspect of slowing down, I feel that age does play a role in your involvement in cubing. This can be seen as the dramatic dropoff of fast (sub-10) cubers over the age of 25. This is obviously due to life factors such as getting a full-time job, having responsibilities, raising children, that younger competitors don't really have to deal with.

Our sport (I don't care what people say, I'll call speedcubing a sport) is really one of the only ones where you can have world-class competitors at the ages of 12-16, and that trend is getting more popular as speedcubing evolves. It almost feels as if speedcubing has become the new cupstacking for when cupstackers outgrow cupstacking. We have world record holders as young as 12, which is awesome really.

I would be interested to see stats like who is the oldest official sub-10 cuber, or even sub-9, and see how dramatic the age drop is when you see who the oldest sub-15 or sub-20 cuber is. For example, if I get a sub-9 avg this weekend at a competition, I think I would be the oldest fastest cuber (sub-9, 26.17 years old). It'd just be interesting to see and know I feel. Who cares if it even gets recognized officially. It would be cool to say I'm the fastest cuber in my age group (25-39), or someone holds the master record. Other sports have "Age-Groupers" and as speedcubing evolves, I think it might make sense to have a Pro category as distinct from age group competitors. Imagine having a Pro Card for cubing lol.

EDIT: It would also be interesting to see how age trends have developed over the years since 2003.

 

[Lucas Garron]

I think it's sensible to reintroduce statistics for competitors who have opted in, but at this point it would mostly require action from the WCA website team (in particular, creating user accounts).
I'll send another email to check on that.

 

[Pedro]

Can't we ask people to make that option during registration? (or at the comp)

 

[PixelWizard]

1. I'd really like such a statistic!

2. I don't think that the date of birth is sensitive information. Why should it be?

3. If it's an option the statistic isn't representative anymore. It would destroy the sense of it. The statistic would only be nice if you could say: "Oh look I'm in the top 100 of people of my age!".

 

[tseitsei]

2. I don't think that the date of birth is sensitive information. Why should it be?

It doesn't matter what you think because legally they (wca) can't give that info without peoples consent

 

[Myachii]

Although these statistics would be a great addition and interesting to see, I fear that they would discourage cubers if they saw people younger than them doing so much better than them.

However, I still voted yes because I would love to see how the little practice I have done this year has hurt me xD

 

[Raviorez]

No, definitly not

 

[EvilGnome6]

Although these statistics would be a great addition and interesting to see, I fear that they would discourage cubers if they saw people younger than them doing so much better than them.

I think it would encourage older cubers if they saw that other people their age were into this rather than seeing only young people on the leader boards.

 

[PixelWizard]

It doesn't matter what you think because legally they (wca) can't give that info without peoples consent

Hmm.. checked the regulations, guess thats your point Sry ...

 

[Dene]

Hmm.. checked the regulations, guess thats your point Sry ...

It's not about the regulations. They can be changed at the whim of the WRC. It's actually about the law in the many countries we have competitions in.

 

[rjcaste]

I think it would bring really interesting stats but making it just an option to tell your age would completely ruin it and would screw up the statistics.

 

[PixelWizard]

It's not about the regulations. They can be changed at the whim of the WRC. It's actually about the law in the many countries we have competitions in.

Sounds interesting, what are you talking about in detail?

 

[Crazycubemom]

YESSSSSSS! it would be great to have age stats why should you keep your age, I am happy as a 50+ female cuber on this Earth hahahahahaha

 

[Antonie faz fan]

It would be awsome if had this for every event ( a while back when wca had this it was just for 3x3 :/)

 

[Dene]

Sounds interesting, what are you talking about in detail?

For a start, the WCA isn't an organisation with legal representation, nor the resources to scour the lawbooks of every country we participate in to find out about the rules regarding the privacy of minors (or even possibly adults). We simply don't know, however it is reasonable to assume that in many countries it would be illegal to reveal the age of minors (at least without explicit consent from a legal guardian). Also, the age at which someone is a "minor" varies in different countries. There are so many issues...

Basically, it might be possible to manage it, but it is well outside the scope of what the WCA is capable of doing. The last thing we need is a massive legal case against us just for having age statistics.

 

[Yoheicube]

I don't intend the date of birth being public, but just age.
That is, not full-information of age (like 32.67 years old), but just simple age (like 32 years old).
Furthermore, not all competitors' age, but only the top of the competitors.

Me too.
i think it doesn't need detail. but i want to simple age.

if there are age data, some competitor get motivation.

some young competitor makes under xx age class No.1 a goal.
some old competitor makes over xx age class No.1 a goal.

conversely there are simple age, Nothing comes amiss to all competitor.

 

[irontwig]

conversely there are simple age, Nothing comes amiss to all competitor.

どういう意味？

 

[Yoheicube]

どういう意味？

sorry, but English.
I think if there are simple age, No one gets damage.