ZZ speedcubing method

What is a good beginner method for easy transition into ZZ?

I don't think there is any "beginner" method that involves an EO start*
To understand EO some cube experience would be very usefull.

Therefore I think Petrus could be a good starting point
- Starts with blockbuilding
- Followed by EO

This way you build experience with both, then it is just a matter of reversing the order  and integrating the “line” into the EO

*Human Thistlethwaite starts with EO though
 
I don't think there is any "beginner" method that involves an EO start*
To understand EO some cube experience would be very usefull.

Therefore I think Petrus could be a good starting point
- Starts with blockbuilding
- Followed by EO

This way you build experience with both, then it is just a matter of reversing the order  and integrating the “line” into the EO

*Human Thistlethwaite starts with EO though


Thanks.
 
I think of Petrus, too. For the same reason.
But I don't believe that Petrus is an “easy” transition from CFOP to ZZ. It's more a way to approach blockbuiding.
 
ahaha, i never bothered to use this, i just trudged along learning EOLine

this is pretty useful though, gotta admit
 
Okay, first of all, hi! This is my first post on this forum. i switched from Fridrich (around 20s ao12) to ZZ (27s+ ao12) yesterday, and now im not sure what to do with the last layer... i am currently learning COLL which i will definately give a try, but is it possible that WV+PLL is faster in terms of MC/Recognition/Performing speed than COLL+EPLL? Since my blockbuilding isnt the greatest (due to lack of practice with petrus/roux etc) would that be a good alternative?

How long did it take you (advanced ZZ-cubers) to master the planning of EOLine in 15 seconds?
will phasing +ZZLL be worth the amount of learning after finishing COLL, or is the recognition time just too long?

Okay, i am done with the Questions :)
Good evening
 
personally i would go COLL + EPLL because of how it transistions to ZZLL if you go for that. Once you have COLL down, i feel it's really then just being able to recognize how you're supposed to move the edges around at that point i think (i'm not quite at that point yet so i can't speak for that)

work on block building, it's different to get your head around that because of how free you are really to be moving the R U and L faces around, i'm still getting used to it myself, or at least making my block building more economic and efficient
i've been using ZZ for at least 2 months, still not quite that strong in EOLine planning, but it's more just me being too lazy to actually plan it out and just being content to spot bad edges as i go, i really need to make more of an effort to plan that part out
 
I recommend that you start with COLL + EPLL, but choose COLL algs that preserve the phase. Later, it will be easier if you choose phasing + ZZLL.
 
I recommend that you start with COLL + EPLL, but choose COLL algs that preserve the phase. Later, it will be easier if you choose phasing + ZZLL.

how do i know a COLL alg would preserve the phase? i mean, i also firstly want to use the fastest COLLs...
 
Hum... just try it, and you'll see.
I believe there are some ZZLL algs that are not so bad.
I wrote a pdf with my algs for ZZLL Pi, but it's in french. Not really a problem, I suppose.

What you need to know:
C = FU equal to FUL.
O = FU opposite to FUL.
xC = FU equal to UFL.
xO = FU opposite to UFL.
 
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I can solve eo line in an average of 4.27 seconds. However, my f2l takes about 47 seconds. I learned ZZ 3 days ago and I was curious if anyone knew any tips for learning and getting better at f2l?
 
oy does anyone have a pdf on the zz method? if so send please. it must have instructions to eoline, f2l, and coll.
 
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