ZZ speedcubing method

My EO recognition has dropped to sub-7, buy I need help with actually doing the EOLine. My EOLine is re only thug that stands between me and sub-20 ZZ. How do all of you do EOLine?
 
byu said:
My EO recognition has dropped to sub-7, buy I need help with actually doing the EOLine. My EOLine is re only thug that stands between me and sub-20 ZZ. How do all of you do EOLine?
Click to expand...

wow; I think my way of EOline might be helpful
I only JUST started this, and I can get sub 10;
Here's approx. what I do.
lineo
That's right, I be switching the syllables on ya'.
This 'method' of EOline consists of finding an optimal (like 1-2 move) line, followed by petrus-ing up the edges. I unfortunately cannot record a vid. atm, but I guess I could do a linEO walkthrough:
Scramble: (white on top; green on front)
L R B L' D2 U2 F U2 F R D B2 U L' R F' D U' B' F' R' F2 D' R2 F L' B R' B' U


linEO
R U' B2
y'
F U'
L' U L
B U R' U R
y
13 moves...actually not too good :(
This was kinda a bad scramble, but I think that you guys can get the jist of it.
Oh, and btw, just did an avg of 12: 2 cases had mispermuted corners; I guess I'm just lucky :p
OH!!! and I got a LL skip :p (w/o winter variation :) , just phasing)

PS:I know this 'method' absolutely sucks, but if people like it, I think that likEOK (line Edge-Orientation Korick) or linEOSK (line Edge-Orientation Stachu Korick) would be really sweet! :p
JK
 
Last edited:
What's so good about ZZ?
I almost never rotate during my Fridrich solves anyway. I average less than one rotation per F2L (I tend to rotate for PLL) and get no more than 2. However, for ZZ, my F2L slows down a lot: from 8 seconds excluding cross to 18 seconds excluding EOline. I just couldn't lookahead at all.
 
Reduced move count, F2L is in the subset RUL, and LL edges are are oriented already. Blockbuilding takes a while to get used to, but apart from that it's great. (byu, do you do EOCross or EOline? Were you using Petrus before?)
 
silly me...
I think the good ZZers try to integrate the line and EO together though.
That's possible with this too, but it seems a little harder.
Best to just keep your options open. I'm sure if someone good with ZZ saw a case where putting in the line edges first would be beneficial, they would, but this seems less efficient for some cases.
 
Lord Voldemort said:
silly me...
I think the good ZZers try to integrate the line and EO together though.
That's possible with this too, but it seems a little harder.
Best to just keep your options open. I'm sure if someone good with ZZ saw a case where putting in the line edges first would be beneficial, they would, but this seems less efficient for some cases.
Click to expand...

Ah; I see what you're saying, but for now, I think I'll stick with LinEO for most cases, unless I see a good case for a EOLine solution...I really wished that LinEO would catch on...:(
 
Lord Voldemort said:
Reduced move count, F2L is in the subset RUL, and LL edges are are oriented already. Blockbuilding takes a while to get used to, but apart from that it's great. (byu, do you do EOCross or EOline? Were you using Petrus before?)
Click to expand...

I average around 50 moves for Fridrich and around 60 for ZZ.
My F2L is already RUL with only one rotation. I use VHF2L, so LL edges are oriented. I already use excross much of the time.
Advantages of Petrus and Fridrich: Actually seeing how to solve at least 4 pieces during inspection. Freedom of rotations and expansion in many directions (especially Petrus). You can be color neutral easily.

EOline is pretty easy, but what bother with it when you can plan for a excross or 2x2x3 block?
I've tried ZZ for a few hours before, but I just don't like it.

Edit:
If you read the first few pages, you would know that I liked this idea when I heard about it at first, but then when I tried it, it just didn't work so well. What puzzles me is that what is supposed to be improved (F2L) actually gets worse.
 
Last edited:
fanwuq said:
puzzlemaster said:
i honestly think that the idea's promising... it just takes a while to get used to.. i think i'm going to stick to my VHF2L though... any ideas on how ZZ can be incorporated with VHF2L? other than EOline?
Click to expand...

Do you know what is VHF2L? I think you are just a DNF.
Click to expand...

nah, just a +n00b (as opposed to a +2)

haha
Scoresheet:
19.36
20.31
18.69
17.90 + n00b = puzzlemaster
18.54
 
puzzlemaster said:
VHF2L? that's inserting the final pair while orienting the last layer edges...correct?
Click to expand...

In ZZ, your edges are already oriented. So you can't use VHF2L.

Stachuk1992 said:
fanwuq said:
puzzlemaster said:
i honestly think that the idea's promising... it just takes a while to get used to.. i think i'm going to stick to my VHF2L though... any ideas on how ZZ can be incorporated with VHF2L? other than EOline?
Click to expand...

Do you know what is VHF2L? I think you are just a DNF.
Click to expand...

nah, just a +n00b (as opposed to a +2)

haha
Scoresheet:
19.36
20.31
18.69
17.90 + n00b = puzzlemaster
18.54
Click to expand...
ROF2L!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Caleb Valenzuela
How to make a “Super Duper Unique” Speedcubing Method (for all events)
Replies
1
Views
481
Jared Burkhart
Jared Burkhart
JackTriton
New 3x3 Method: (Named) JLA 3x3 method, based on Lau Method
Replies
19
Views
2,117
JackTriton
JackTriton
Ralph Laurence
Thoughts on Lau Method
Replies
11
Views
3,506
Ralph Laurence
Ralph Laurence
Michael Wimberly
Making A New Speedcubing Method
2
Replies
32
Views
3,837
Michael Wimberly
Michael Wimberly
Epinore
Gear Cube X Method: Basic Speedcubing Tutorial
Replies
3
Views
1,898
Epinore
Epinore
Back
Top