# World Record Predictions for the year 2030

#### ImmolatedMarmoset

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Why would you not want cubing to be monetized? Why should organizers not be able to profit?
I personally think it undermines the idea that WCA is a 501(c)3

#### ImmolatedMarmoset

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Ofc it does lol. I’m not predicting that the wca is going to participate in illegal activity lol. I’m predicting that when it gets bit enough they are going to change their status to allow people to make money.
why? I also think it undermines the community aspect of it. Just seems that way to me. (although as i said, James Quinn...)

#### ImmolatedMarmoset

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Monetary incentives could be helpful imo. I would imagine more competitions would be held if organizers could make money for example. If wca teams were paid I would expect much more time and thought to be put into their work.

how does that undermine the community? As long as the money part is regulated to some degree (ex you can only make $1 per competitor) then I don’t really see any issues with it all fair. In all honesty, i have changed my mind a bit and I somewhat like your idea. Here are my critiques: - do we really want competitions to be held that much more often? I personally live in the new england area, and I think our comp level is pretty good. I know that other regions are not as good with this. - If there are two organizers, how do they split up the$1 dollar? Would different organizers be able to make $1 each? -Probably would be a bit harder to get comp venues if the organization/organizer is making money on this -We should probably either make a separate thread for this or bring it to DMs. #### ProStar ##### Member I don’t think it’s a matter of why, it’s more just that I don’t want cubing to be monetized, I want the angstrom clock to be good, I want clock and feet to stay, I don’t want organizers to be able to profit off events (except maybe James, he could use it) Why would you not want cubing to be monetized? Why should organizers not be able to profit? I personally think it undermines the idea that WCA is a 501(c)3 Ofc it does lol. I’m not predicting that the wca is going to participate in illegal activity lol. I’m predicting that when it gets bit enough they are going to change their status to allow people to make money. why? I also think it undermines the community aspect of it. Just seems that way to me. (although as i said, James Quinn...) Monetary incentives could be helpful imo. I would imagine more competitions would be held if organizers could make money for example. If wca teams were paid I would expect much more time and thought to be put into their work. how does that undermine the community? As long as the money part is regulated to some degree (ex you can only make$1 per competitor) then I don’t really see any issues with it
all fair. In all honesty, i have changed my mind a bit and I somewhat like your idea. Here are my critiques:
- do we really want competitions to be held that much more often? I personally live in the new england area, and I think our comp level is pretty good. I know that other regions are not as good with this.
- If there are two organizers, how do they split up the $1 dollar? Would different organizers be able to make$1 each?
-Probably would be a bit harder to get comp venues if the organization/organizer is making money on this
-We should probably either make a separate thread for this or bring it to DMs.
Guys, it doesn't matter. We're just guessing, not making official campaign statements. Please stop spamming people's notifications.

#### fortissim2

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I'm seeing 2x2 singles at around 0.3, but doesn't it kinda depend on the scramble and picking up the cube fast enough to be sub-WR (2019)?

#### ProStar

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I'm seeing 2x2 singles at around 0.3, but doesn't it kinda depend on the scramble and picking up the cube fast enough to be sub-WR (2019)?
Can you send me a link to one of those? I couldn't find any 2x2 singles that were below .49 and followed WCA regulations. Thanks!

WCA regulation 4b3c, "2x2x2 Cube: The (random) state must require at least 4 moves to solve."

That's the main thing on most of the vids I saw that disqualified them.

#### Zagros

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Me and my "friend" predicting, first one is mine, second is his. He has very little (he can solve a pyraminx in 19 seconds) cubing experience.
2x2: 0.38/0.39 Single, 0.83/0.64 Average
3x3: 2.70/2.43 Single, 4.61/4.90 Average
4x4: 12.22/13.84 Single, 16.22/16.98 Average
5x5: 27.9y/29.12 Single, 32.5y/29.86 Average
6x6: 56.5y/54.28 Single, 59.9y/59.20 Average
7x7: 1:25.xy/1:09.44 Single, 1:30.xy/1:17.16 Average
3BLD: 11.91/11.36 Single, 14.73/16.21 Average
FMC: 15/15 Single, 17/20.33 Average
OH: 4.48/4.62 Single, 7.65/7.13 Average
Feet: 12.85/14.18 Single, 16.59/16.46 Average
Clock: 1.92/2.18 Single, 3.21/3.41 Average
Mega: 23.5y/19.85 Single, 25.3y/24.12 Average
Pyra: 0.69/0.72 Single, 1.36/1.47 Average
Skewb: 0.73/0.62 Single, 1.60/1.66 Average
Sq1: 3.00/3.24 Single, 5.00/5.33 Average
4BLD: 49.xy/44.87 Single, 53.xy/44.87, 54.39, 54.26 = 51.17 Average
5BLD: 1:48.xy/1:36.69 Single, 1:59.xy/2:13.16 Average
MBLD: 86 points/74 out of 76 = 72 points

#### fortissim2

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Can you send me a link to one of those? I couldn't find any 2x2 singles that were below .49 and followed WCA regulations. Thanks!

WCA regulation 4b3c, "2x2x2 Cube: The (random) state must require at least 4 moves to solve."

That's the main thing on most of the vids I saw that disqualified them.
The WR is 0.49, but people here are predicting around 0.3. That's what I meant.

#### Ordway Persyn

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Im going to assume the event list remains the same, also this will be my only prediction:

2x2: 0.44/1.07
3x3: 2.90/4.32
4x4: 11.56/15.02
5x5: 23.80/27.01
6x6: 40.22/47.15
7x7: 1:03.70/1:09.44
3BLD: 10.99/13.67
FMC: 15 /19.66
OH: 5.59/7.44
Feet: 12.40/17.90 (unlikely to be an event though)
Clock: 2.33/3.70
Megaminx: 17.92/21.50
Pyraminx: 0.79/1.44
Skewb: 0.82/1.51
Sq-1: 2.99/5.11
4BLD: 41.17/47.12
5BLD: 1:25.23/1:32.55
MBLD: 70/73 in 59:36

Some extra predictions
There will be more competition at the top of each event
People will likely learn 1lll
I will probably still be cubing

I actually think my predictions might be a little conservative.

#### ProStar

##### Member
Im going to assume the event list remains the same, also this will be my only prediction:

2x2: 0.44/1.07
3x3: 2.90/4.32
4x4: 11.56/15.02
5x5: 23.80/27.01
6x6: 40.22/47.15
7x7: 1:03.70/1:09.44
3BLD: 10.99/13.67
FMC: 15 /19.66
OH: 5.59/7.44
Feet: 12.40/17.90 (unlikely to be an event though)
Clock: 2.33/3.70
Megaminx: 17.92/21.50
Pyraminx: 0.79/1.44
Skewb: 0.82/1.51
Sq-1: 2.99/5.11
4BLD: 41.17/47.12
5BLD: 1:25.23/1:32.55
MBLD: 70/73 in 59:36

Some extra predictions
There will be more competition at the top of each event
People will likely learn 1lll
I will probably still be cubing

I actually think my predictions might be a little conservative.
These actually aren't unrealistic. I personally think it's definitely possible that a couple people will learn 1LLL, but I don't think it will become a common thing, because it has like 1,000+ algs. And over 100 of those are already known by anyone who does 2LLL.

#### Tony Fisher

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I wonder if cubing will still be a thing in say, 50 years?
If the climate change cult continues I suspect all plastic will be banned and cubes will be hand chiselled from stone in the dark.

My predictions for 2030
Rubik's Cube single - 1.87. This is my prediction though I think it will be around 2.87. That does not allow for my typical "wow, it went much lower than I thought" reaction so I have removed a second in anticipation that I am massively wrong.
Highest order mass produced cube - 33x33x33
Highest order cube - 44x44x44
Largest Rubik's Cube - 3.08m x 3.08m x 3.08m (not by me though).

At some point I think everything will recede somewhat just as we saw in the 90s. I doubt that will happen before 2030 but it might depending on new technology. Meaning if most cubers find a better hobby they'll gradually stop cubing. I can easily imagine some new app thing taking over.

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#### Underwatercuber

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I hope we will not use CFOP anymore
Why would you want people to be slower?

#### ElephantCuber

##### Member
clock will not be removed, and if it is, I will cry and quit cubing

#### Filipe Teixeira

##### Member
Why would you want people to be slower?