Escher
Babby
... surely in execution a 4LLL would take between 8-10 secs, leaving 2 seconds for the cross and 2 secs for each f2l case... thats pretty damn fast. anyone with an f2l like that would probably have learnt at least the PLLs by that time anyway... it just seems a little improbable. show me a youtube video or something and ill believe you 