Where do you stop being a beginner and become a speedcuber?

[Escher]

... surely in execution a 4LLL would take between 8-10 secs, leaving 2 seconds for the cross and 2 secs for each f2l case... thats pretty damn fast. anyone with an f2l like that would probably have learnt at least the PLLs by that time anyway... it just seems a little improbable. show me a youtube video or something and ill believe you

 

[PCwizCube]

... surely in execution a 4LLL would take between 8-10 secs, leaving 2 seconds for the cross and 2 secs for each f2l case... thats pretty damn fast. anyone with an f2l like that would probably have learnt at least the PLLs by that time anyway... it just seems a little improbable. show me a youtube video or something and ill believe you

Do you mean this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLki-254ZKA

Fast people like Yu Nakajima and Harris Chan can finish their Fridrich F2L within 7 seconds. That's probably around 1.5 seconds cross and 5.5 for the rest of the F2L. If you were doing LBL F2L, then you can probably finish the corners in 4.5 seconds and middle layer edges in 6 seconds. 1.5 + 4.5 + 6 = 12 seconds for LBL F2L. 4LLL can be done in 7.5 seconds which is a total of 19.5 seconds.....

 

[mrCage]

Hi

It is possible (by MistArts' or other definitions to be a speedcuber on the larger cubes and not being a speedcuber on the 2x2x2 and 3x3x3 for instance. That's how i see myself anyway

Picking up competitive speedcubing today is a daunting task, at least internationally ;-)

- Per

 

[Escher]

Fine, im convinced Hey, thats Erik! of course hes gonna get 15 sec times with bloody lbl and 4lll! i meant for real people, not superhumans;-)

 

[whauk]

if you average below 40 seconds you are a speedcuber!

 

[Odin]

cool! according to most of you im a speed cuber (a slow one but im still a speed cuber)

 

[fanwuq]

I also think that if you solve the cube, and care about the time taken to solve and not just the solve itself, then you are a speedcuber.

Also, there was a big transition because of the documentary "Cubers". We all used to say speedcubist, or speedcubists. After the first trailers for "Cubers" the documentary came out, and also after the media at the 2003 World Championships started calling us cubers, we all took to the term too.

Back then I thought calling myself a "cuber" sounded weird, and I preferred "cubist". Now, calling myself a "cubist" sounds weird.

Chris

I still prefer cubist. Cuber just seems too much of an adjective: cube, cuber, cubiest.

 

[hawkmp4]

Cubist makes me feel like Picasso.

 

[Odin]

Cubist... i like it but speed cuber just has a ring to it, you know what i mean?

 

[IamWEB]

if you average below 40 seconds you are a speedcuber!

I consider myself a speedcuber, but I average in the late 40's.

I consider someone a speedcuber when they either are trying to improve their solve times and/or attempt to solve it as fast as they can, and you know what speedcubing is. I say that because someone who, at their fastest, get 3 minute solves, probably doesn't know what speedcubing is/shows interest in it. This is because you'd probably being practicing fingertricks if you knew, and someone using real fingertricks averages 3 minutes seems rare.

 

[AvGalen]

Fine, im convinced Hey, thats Erik! of course hes gonna get 15 sec times with bloody lbl and 4lll! i meant for real people, not superhumans;-)

Well, it is not sub 20, but is was also more than 1.5 years ago. I have since gotten a 21 average and many sub 20 solves using the same method which is really a beginners method:
cross
3 corners
4 middle layer edges
4th corner to finish the F2L
Edge-OLL (3 algs)
Corner-OLL (7 algs)
Corner-PLL (2 algs)
Edge-PLL (4 algs)

I don't think that qualifies me as a superhuman

 

[d4m4s74]

I'd say you are a speedcuber when you race, against others, against the clock and especially yourself

 

[Lord Voldemort]

i wouldnt call someone who solves the cube in 3 minutes a "speedcuber", because... there is simply no speed involved, relatively speaking of course
Besides there is the fact that it degrades me (and many others below me) in a sense, because I enjoy thinking of myself as a speedcuber

So anyway to me clearly that definition does not suffice. Imo speedcubing starts at around 40 seconds. If you get that far, you have shown that you are interested enough in the cube to have learned some new algorithms and that you actually care about your speed.

Yay, I am a Badmephisto Certified speedcuber (as of like three days ago)
I was thinking something like 1 minute for the same reason. Mostly everyone who gets to a minute does have interest in getting better.

 

[Kit Clement]

You're a speedcuber when you solve cubes for self improvement in time instead of the enjoyment of seeing it solved, regardless of your speed.

 

[Escher]

i think the generally accepted definition here seems to be...

you are a cuber if you enjoy solving a cube.
you are a speedcuber if you enjoy solving a cube, and strive to solve the cube faster.

thus, one can be a cuber all their life, never wanting to go faster, but having the ability to solve many different puzzles (or even just the 3x3). it is possible to be a cuber and be very fast - as a 'cuber', you just dont care how fast you are, as long as you still enjoy it for the 'thrill of the ride'.

you can also be a speedcuber from the moment you solve a cube for the second time. like me

Arnaud:
maybe it doesnt qualify you as a superhuman, but it does mean you are very, very good at your method
Erik does have superhuman tps though

Edit: and why the bump on this generally concluded thread everybody?

 

[shelley]

Thank you everyone who repeated exactly what everyone else posted in answer to the question 5 months ago. Seriously, we need an "old thread" warning for stuff like this.

 

[Tomarse]

I think the sub-20 barrier is a pretty large benchmark in speedcubing.

 

[Sin-H]

When you start measuring your times, maybe also keeping track of them, then you are a speedcuber.

You are a decent speedcuber if you average Sub30
You are a quite good speedcuber if you average Sub20
You are a really good speedcuber if you average Sub15
You are a top speedcuber if you average Sub14
You are a world class speedcuber if you average Sub13
You are an insanely fast speedcuber if you average Sub12
You are a guy who needs professional help if you average Sub11
You are decent+quite good+really good+top+world class+insanely fast+needing professional help+just flabbergasting & mind-blowing if you average Sub10
You are a liar if you average Sub9

The last 4 are obviously jokes

Note that you can be insane without averaging Sub12 ^^

 

[Escher]

question promptly answered

to shelley : yeah, i would have thought that once i'd said this, the thread would die... evidently, i was wrong.

to sin-h, im glad you think im quite good

 

[csdoplr]

Am I Considered A Speedcuber?

I was wondering am i considered a speedcuber. PB for 3x3 is 15.71, 4x4 is 1:49, 5x5 is 3:14 2x2 is 1.60. I know 18/21 pll and like 15 oll. my avg is around 25-27. My pb avgs are 3x3 22:60 4x4 is 2:11 I never practice, and 5x5 is like 3:45. my youtube is http://www.youtube.com/user/StaleBread12 if you wanna see. What you think am I or not?