The Square-1 "Example Solve" Game

AndrewT99 · May 29, 2023

Nevan J said:
Next: (4,0)/ (6,3)/ (3,-3)/ (5,-1)/ (-3,-3)/ (-5,0)/ (3,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-5,-4)/ (-2,0)/ (-4,-2)/ (-3,0)/

(4,-1)/ (-2,3)/ (2,-3)/ (-1,-2)/ (-3,0)/ -- CSP (5/5)
(1,0)/ (2,-1)/ (0,3)/ (1,-2)/ (-4,-1)/ -- OBL (5/10)
(1,0)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (0,-3)/ (-4,3)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (0,-3)/ (3,4) -- PBL (8/18)

Next: (0,-4)/ (1,4)/ (3,3)/ (-1,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (3,-2)`/` (-3,-3)/ (6,-1)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-5)/ (0,-2)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-1)

Silky · Jun 14, 2023

AndrewT99 said:
Next: (0,-4)/ (1,4)/ (3,3)/ (-1,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (3,-2)`/` (-3,-3)/ (6,-1)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-5)/ (0,-2)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-1)

(0,-5) / (2,0) / (1,-2) / (-1,0) / (0,2) / (1,2) / (-3,-3) / -- CS (7)
(-3-4) / (-3,6) / (-2,1) / (3,0) / (-1,-1) / -- D-Layer (5/12)
(6-5) / (-3,0) / (3,3) / (0,-3) / (4,0) / (-3,0) / (3,3) / (0,-3) / (-4,0) -- T-Perm (8/20)

Next: (-3, 5) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (-3, 0) / (2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-2, -1) / (-4, -3) / (6, -3) / (0, -4) / (0, -1)

AndrewT99 · Jun 24, 2023

Silky said:
Next: (-3, 5) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (-3, 0) / (2, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-2, -1) / (-4, -3) / (6, -3) / (0, -4) / (0, -1)

y2 -- Inspection
(-3,1)/ (4,0)/ (0,1)/ (-2,0)/ (-5,2)/ (0,3)/ -- CSP (6/6)
(-3,1)/ (0,-3)/ (5,2)/ -- OBL (3/9)
(1,4)/ (3,3)/ (2,-1)/ (-2,1)/ (-3,-3)/ (-4,3) -- PBL (5/14)

Next: (-2,0)/ (0,3)/ (-3,0)/ (3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-1,-4)/ (0,-3)/ (0,-5)`/` (-3,-3)/ (0,-5)/ (2,-2)/ (2,0)/ (-2,0)/

Silky · Jun 25, 2023

AndrewT99 said:
Next: (-2,0)/ (0,3)/ (-3,0)/ (3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-1,-4)/ (0,-3)/ (0,-5)`/` (-3,-3)/ (0,-5)/ (2,-2)/ (2,0)/ (-2,0)/

(-4,-4) / (0,2) / (-4,0) / (2,1) / (3,3) / -- CSP (5)
(3,5) / (1,-5) / (3,-3) /(-1,-1) / (3,0) / (-3,0) / -- Lin Blocks (6/11)
(-2, -2) / (0,-3) / (3,0) / (-4,2) / (4,1) / (0,-3) / (2,-3) -- PLL+1 (6/17)

Next: (0, -1) / (3, 6) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (2, -4) / (1, 0) / (-3, 0) / (5, -3) / (-5, 0) / (2, 0) / (-1, -2) / (4, 0) / (1, 0)

AndrewT99 · Jun 26, 2023

Silky said:
Next: (0, -1) / (3, 6) / (4, -2) / (0, -3) / (2, -4) / (1, 0) / (-3, 0) / (5, -3) / (-5, 0) / (2, 0) / (-1, -2) / (4, 0) / (1, 0)

(-1,0)/ (-4,0)/ (1,2)/ (-2,0)/ (-1,-2)/ (-3,0)/ -- CSP (6/6)
(-5,0)/ (0,3)/ (-4,-1)/ (3,0)/ -- OBL (4/10)
(-2,-2)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (2,-1)/ (-5,1)/ (2,-4)/ (4,1)/ (6,0)/ (5,6) -- PBL (10/20)

Next: (4,3)/ (-1,5)/ (-3,-3)/ (-2,-5)/ (-1,-4)/ (-5,0)`/` (0,-3)/ (-3,-2)/ (-1,-2)/ (0,-2)/ (-3,-4)

Silky · Jun 26, 2023

AndrewT99 said:
Next: (4,3)/ (-1,5)/ (-3,-3)/ (-2,-5)/ (-1,-4)/ (-5,0)`/` (0,-3)/ (-3,-2)/ (-1,-2)/ (0,-2)/ (-3,-4)

Method: Lin

(-3,-2) / (2,0) / (1,2) / (2,3) / (0,3) / -- CSP (5)
(6,-1) / (4,1) / (-1,-4) / (-3,3) / -- Lin Blocks (4/9)
(6,0) / (1, -5) / (0,6) / (2,-3) -- PLL+2 (3/12)

@AndrewT99 I must say, you are a worthy rival

Next: (0, 5) / (4, -2) / (-3, 0) / (2, -1) / (3, -3) / (3, 0) / (0, -5) / (-3, -3) / (-4, 0) / (0, -5) / (4, 0) / (0, -5) / (0, -1)

AndrewT99 · Jun 27, 2023

Silky said:
Next: (0, 5) / (4, -2) / (-3, 0) / (2, -1) / (3, -3) / (3, 0) / (0, -5) / (-3, -3) / (-4, 0) / (0, -5) / (4, 0) / (0, -5) / (0, -1)

y2 -- Inspection
(6,0)/ (2,0)/ (-1,-2)/ (-3,-3)/ -- CSP (4/4)
(4,0)/ (-4,2)/ (0,3)/ -- OBL (3/7)
(0,-2)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (0,-3)/ (0,2)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (-3,0)/ (3,-3)/ (0,4) -- PBL (9/16)

@Silky Haha, idk what kind of rivalry there is to be had doing example solves, but yeah same to you

Next: (-3,-1)/ (1,-5)/ (5,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (-5,-5)/ (2,0)`/` (3,0)/ (0,-4)/ (1,0)/ (6,-4)/ (4,-1)/ (0,-4)

Celeritardum · Aug 25, 2023

(I scramble and solve with white top)

/ (2,-5) / (-2,0) / (-2,-1) / (3,3) / -- CSP
(0,2) / (-5,1) / (3,-3) / (-4,-1) / (-5,1) / (-1,-1) / (3,0) / -- FB and SB + D edge
(1,4) / (-3,0) / (-1,2) / (1,-2) / (-3,3) / (-4,-1) / (-3,0) / (1,1) / (3,0) / (-1,5) / (0,6) / (-3,1) -- CMDLL cancel into Z perm

I am not good at Square 1 because I don't know PLL+1 or CSP (I just got lucky) but I think this is a fairly good solution.

Next: (1,0)/ (-3,6)/ (3,3)/ (-3,0)/ (-1,-1)/ (-3,-2)/ (3,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (0,-1)/ (-5,-4)/

IsThatA4x4 · Aug 25, 2023

HawaiianKociemba2 said:
Next: (1,0)/ (-3,6)/ (3,3)/ (-3,0)/ (-1,-1)/ (-3,-2)/ (3,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (0,-1)/ (-5,-4)/

/-14/01/03/ #CSP L/3-2-1 (4/4)
10/ #CO (1/5)
6-3/-30/30/-1-1/-30/41/ #EO (6/11)
-13/03/-3-3/30/ #CP forcing good U (4/15)
-5-3/5-1/-21/-1-1/-21/03 #EP (5/20)

Next: (-5,0)/ (3,0)/ (-3,0)/ (-1,-4)/ (-5,-2)/ (-3,-1)/ (3,0)/ (-4,-3)/ (-3,-4)/ (-2,0)/ (1,0)/ (-4,0)

Weston_Todd · Aug 25, 2023

/ 50/02/0-4/01/03/ #CS
40/ #CO
63/30/30/-1-1/-21/-30/ #EO
/03/0-3/03/0-3/ #setup to a case i know
-33/ 03/-1-1/1-2/ #adj adj to setup to JN
-4-1/03/0-3/03/0-3/3-5 #JN
Next: (1,0)/ (0,3)/ (5,-4)/ (-2,-2)/ (6,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-4,0)`/` (-3,0)/ (4,-1)/ (6,0)/ (-2,-3)/ (0,-2)/

AndrewT99 · Aug 28, 2023

Weston_Todd said:
Next: (1,0)/ (0,3)/ (5,-4)/ (-2,-2)/ (6,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-4,0)`/` (-3,0)/ (4,-1)/ (6,0)/ (-2,-3)/ (0,-2)/

y2 -- Inspection
(-2,0)/ (2,0)/ (-2,3)/ (-2,-1)/ (-3,0)/ -- CSP (5/5)
(5,0)/ (-2,1)/ (5,2)/ (4,1)/ (-1,-4)/ -- OBL (5/10)
(4,4)/ (5,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,-2)/ (6,3)/ (6,0)/ (-1,-3) -- PBL (6/16)

Next: (0,2)/ (1,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-1,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,0)`/` (-3,-3)/ (1,0)/ (2,-2)/ (2,-2)/ (-4,0)/

AndrewT99 · Sep 19, 2023

AndrewT99 said:
Next: (0,2)/ (1,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (3,0)/ (-1,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,0)`/` (-3,-3)/ (1,0)/ (2,-2)/ (2,-2)/ (-4,0)/

y2 -- Inspection
(0,-2)/ (-2,4)/ (1,0)/ (-3,-3)/ -- CSP (4/4)
(0,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (-2,1)/ (2,5)/ -- OBL (4/8)
(6,0)/ (-3,0)/ (3,3)/ (0,-3)/ (1,1)/ (-3,-3)/ (-3,3)/ (-3,-3)/ (-4,3) -- PBL (8/16)

Next: (0,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (-5,1)/ (-3,0)/ (5,-4)/ (-3,-3)/ (4,0)`/` (3,0)/ (3,0)/ (-1,0)/ (2,0)/ (6,-3)/ (6,-4)

AndrewT99 · Oct 23, 2023

AndrewT99 said:
Next: (0,-4)/ (-3,0)/ (-5,1)/ (-3,0)/ (5,-4)/ (-3,-3)/ (4,0)`/` (3,0)/ (3,0)/ (-1,0)/ (2,0)/ (6,-3)/ (6,-4)

(-2,-2)/ (-3,0)/ (3,-2)/ (2,1)/ (0,3)/ -- CSP (5/5)
(-5,3)/ (-1,2)/ (-5,-2)/ (-1,-4)/ (1,4)/ -- OBL (5/10)
(3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (3,3)/ (-3,0)/ (5,-1)/ (0,3)/ (0,3)/ (0,-3)/ (0,3)/ (0,3)/ (0,-5) -- PBL (10/20)

Next: (0,-4)/ (1,-5)/ (-3,0)/ (6,-3)/ (5,-4)/ (1,-3)`/` (-3,0)/ (-1,0)/ (2,-2)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-4)/ (4,0)/ (-1,0)

IsThatA4x4 · Jan 19, 2024

AndrewT99 said:
(-2,-2)/ (-3,0)/ (3,-2)/ (2,1)/ (0,3)/ -- CSP (5/5)
(-5,3)/ (-1,2)/ (-5,-2)/ (-1,-4)/ (1,4)/ -- OBL (5/10)
(3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (3,3)/ (-3,0)/ (5,-1)/ (0,3)/ (0,3)/ (0,-3)/ (0,3)/ (0,3)/ (0,-5) -- PBL (10/20)

Next: (0,-4)/ (1,-5)/ (-3,0)/ (6,-3)/ (5,-4)/ (1,-3)`/` (-3,0)/ (-1,0)/ (2,-2)/ (-4,0)/ (0,-4)/ (4,0)/ (-1,0)

Reviving this partially so I can look at my PBL solutions and try to improve them (although this was an easy case), also using karn because I don't like writing out tonnes of numbers
-52/0-4/-41/-10/-30/ // CSP (bad 312/L) [5/5]
1-3 U // CO [2/7]
0-3 W' M W' // EO [6/13]
// PBL: B/S
10 B' B' // J/N [5/18]
01 U M u' 20 // adj/adj [4/22]

next: (4,6)/ (2,-1)/ (-3,0)/ (0,-3)/ (1,-5)/ (3,0)/ (0,-4)/ (-3,-3)/ (-1,-2)/ (2,0)/ (-4,0)/ (-4,-4)

OtaMota · Jan 20, 2024

Does twizzle not support Square 1?

Lucas Garron · Jan 20, 2024

OtaMota said:
Does twizzle not support Square 1?

It does! But there are a few caveats:

3D animations are not implemented yet.
We don't yet check bandaging — that is, it lets you cut corners in half like a Square-2.
U and D moves are not animated simultaneously yet.
There was an issue where Square-1 reconstructions could be blocked from loading by our web server.

I've just fixed the last issue, so it should no longer be a problem. Thanks for bringing it up, or I wouldn't have noticed!

Twizzle link

Setup

(4, 6) / (2, -1) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (1, -5) / (3, 0) / (0, -4) / (-3, -3) / (-1, -2) / (2, 0) / (-4, 0) / (-4, -4)

Moves

(2, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, 0) / (-3, -3) / // Square
(-5, 0) / (-1, -4) / // orientation
/ (3, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-3, 3) / (-3, 0) / (3, 0) / // CP
(0, -3) / (1, 1) / (6, 0) / (-1, -1) / // 2-2 opposite edge swap
(-6, -3) / (-3, 0) / (1, 1) / (2, -1) / // 2-2 adjacent edge swap
(-6, 1) / (-3, 0) / (0, 3) / (0, -3) / (0, 3) / (2, 0) / (0, 2) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (0, -2) / (0, 2) / (-1, 4) / (0, -3) / (-6, 3) // parity

P.S. Twizzle requires spaces around the slash moves. You can get a compatible random-state scramble from https://scramble.cubing.net/?event=sq1 (you can press Ctrl-C / ⌘C after the page loads, and it will transfer to your clipboard).

Next scramble: (4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (6, -3) / (5, -4) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (1, 0) / (-3, -3) / (5, 0) / (0, -2) / (4, 0) / (4, 0) / (2, 0) / (-4, 0)

OtaMota · Jan 21, 2024

Lucas Garron said:
It does! But there are a few caveats:

3D animations are not implemented yet.

We don't yet check bandaging — that is, it lets you cut corners in half like a Square-2.

U and D moves are not animated simultaneously yet.

There was an issue where Square-1 reconstructions could be blocked from loading by our web server.

I've just fixed the last issue, so it should no longer be a problem. Thanks for bringing it up, or I wouldn't have noticed!

Twizzle link
Setup
(4, 6) / (2, -1) / (-3, 0) / (0, -3) / (1, -5) / (3, 0) / (0, -4) / (-3, -3) / (-1, -2) / (2, 0) / (-4, 0) / (-4, -4)
Moves
(2, 0) / (0, -4) / (1, 0) / (-3, -3) / // Square (-5, 0) / (-1, -4) / // orientation / (3, 0) / (-3, 0) / (-3, 3) / (-3, 0) / (3, 0) / // CP (0, -3) / (1, 1) / (6, 0) / (-1, -1) / // 2-2 edge swap (-6, -3) / (-3, 0) / (1, 1) / (2, -1) / (-6, 1) / (-3, 0) / (0, 3) / (0, -3) / (0, 3) / (2, 0) / (0, 2) / (-2, 0) / (4, 0) / (0, -2) / (0, 2) / (-1, 4) / (0, -3) / (-6, 3) // parity

P.S. Twizzle requires spaces around the slash moves. You can get a compatible random-state scramble from https://scramble.cubing.net/?event=sq1 (you can press Ctrl-C / ⌘C after the page loads, and it will transfer to your clipboard).

Next scramble: (4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (6, -3) / (5, -4) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (1, 0) / (-3, -3) / (5, 0) / (0, -2) / (4, 0) / (4, 0) / (2, 0) / (-4, 0)

Another suggestion could be the option to replace yellow with black as many people do that.

Lucas Garron · Jan 21, 2024

OtaMota said:
Another suggestion could be the option to replace yellow with black as many people do that.

I'm somewhat amenable to that, but TNoodle itself hasn't switched over. I could also use some stats on exactly which color substitutions are the most common and how much — I've definitely seen a lot of black tiles in Square-1, but I don't know enough myself about whether it usually replaces white rather than yellow.

Celeritardum · Jan 21, 2024

Lucas Garron said:
Next scramble: (4, 0) / (-3, 0) / (6, -3) / (5, -4) / (0, -3) / (3, 0) / (1, 0) / (-3, -3) / (5, 0) / (0, -2) / (4, 0) / (4, 0) / (2, 0) / (-4, 0)

z2 // Inspection
Cubeshape: (-2,-4) / (2,0) / (-2,-1) / (3,3) /
F2B: (4,0) / (3,-3) / (2,2) / (-2,1) / (-1,-1) / (-2,1) / (3,0) / (-1,-1) /
CPDF: (-5,1) / (-5,-3) / (-3,0) / (-1,2) / (1,-2) / (-3,3) / (-3,0) /
EPLL: (-6,0) / (2,-4) / (-5,0) / (0,-3) / (-1,0) / (0,-4) / (0,4) / (4,0) / (2,3) / (0,-3) / (-4,0) / (6,3) / (6,0) / (-3,3)

Next: (0,-4)/ (-2,4)/ (3,0)/ (2,-1)/ (-2,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (5,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (-3,-1)/ (2,0)/ (1,0)/ (-2,-4)/

IsThatA4x4 · Jan 21, 2024

Celeritardum said:
(0,-4)/ (-2,4)/ (3,0)/ (2,-1)/ (-2,-2)/ (0,-3)/ (5,0)/ (0,-3)/ (-3,0)/ (-3,-1)/ (2,0)/ (1,0)/ (-2,-4)/

z2 0-4/-2-3/-33/21/03/ // CSP [5/5] (L/6)
-20 e U M U' F // CO cancelled into EO [6/11]
// PBL: B/S (again)
-40 B' B' // J/N [5/16]
-23 D M K' U2 23 // adjadj+ [5/21]

Next: (-5,0) / (-1,5) / (3,0) / (0,-3) / (3,0) / (1,-5) / (2,0) / (3,0) / (1,0) / (-4,0) / (-4,-3) /

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