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uh...question..why roux for OH? it sounds pretty good for the first few steps, but M moves must be a hinderance of some sort
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A little but with practise it's nowhere near as bad as people think. Just table abuse.
Also, the efficiency is definately a big bonus. I probably average the following:
FB: 8
SB:12-14 (although it varies a lot tbh)
CMLL: 14-15
LSE: 12- (it's easy enough to force skips)
I just need to learn good OH CMLL cause in doing some 2-look atm :/
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LSE isn't bad at all.
my 2H splits:
FB: 1.5-2
SB: 2-2.5
CMLL: 1.25-1.75
lse: 2-2.5
my OH splits:
FB: 3-3.5
SB:4-4.5
CMLL: 3.25
LSE: 3.5
LSE is probably the best step.
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my god...you must have some strong fingers..well you've definitely convinced me..seeing you flick those M slices like that woahh that's sexy, my fingers aren't strong enough to push M like that with one hand, I guess it's just a matter of practice and experience
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it's the same as the reverse pinky flick. once you get good at that, you'll be good at this. loosening your cube helps, but i think for OH, a tighter more stable cube is preferable for the other parts of the solve.
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fingertricking M OH was one of the main things keeping me from using it, with roux it just feels like so much more freedom in turning than in CFOP, but I still use CFOP right now and I'm pretty bad at OH (like sub 45)
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Thanks much for the feedback. That looks way beyond me at this point, but helps to see what is possible.
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I'm using Roux for OH as well. I am aiming for sub 20 and LSE is like half my solve. I use ring for M' and index from BU to FU for M. Is this very bad?
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yes, the M, BU to FU, is slow. try doing M U2 M U' M U M. i mean, i'm sure in your solve, you find yourself doing M' M' M' because M is so bad. do pinky reverse flick FD to DB.
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What can I focus on to improve the first 2 blocks?
Locating the pieces is what takes the most time, then seeing how to fit them together.
Currently I locate the first 5 pieces before starting, plan the first 2 or 3 moves and have a rough idea of the others.
What should I look for when doing slow solves, and what are the best things to work on from here?
Locating the pieces is what takes the most time, then seeing how to fit them together.
Currently I locate the first 5 pieces before starting, plan the first 2 or 3 moves and have a rough idea of the others.
What should I look for when doing slow solves, and what are the best things to work on from here?
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for the first block, yes, locate all the pieces before starting and try to plan out as much as you can, use as much inspection as you want.
for second block, it's not applicable in a speedsolve to find all the pieces and then do the solve. when you see pieces that fit together, solve it, don't wait to find other pieces. as you solve those pieces, try to be on the look out for other pieces of the second block and keep building up the second block.
really it will take a lot of practice. just keep doing f2block solves and when you find a case that is "hard," stop, and try to figure out the best way to do it.
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Hey, Guroux, do you have any tips for reverse pinky Ms and any drills that are good?
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get a tight cube. when you're watching a video or something just do a whole bunch of OH moves, including the reverse pinky flick. note that it doesn't have to be M, if you right handed, doing L will work too. After a couple of weeks of going to sleep with a sore pinky, you should be able to M reverse pinky flick no problem on most cube tensions.
for your OH cube, make it a little looser so that the M slice is easier. table abuse on a surface with good friction helps too.
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Like practicing with a 1980 cube until your pinky is stronger than Hulk's?
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shadowslice e
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Weird... I can do R' (I use my left hand) but find it hard to do M...
Thanks I'll be sure to get those tensions tight!
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Knut
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Are there any advantages to always solving UL UR, or does it work to solve UF UB and just end with a U or U'?
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It saves an extra AUF solving ULUR. Also, you'll find that UL and UR are much easier to recognise in a speedsolve, since the L and R colours aren't on any of the other pieces in the LSE. The colours of the UFUB edges aren't unique, which makes recognition tricky.
If they're solved then they can definitely be worth using - certainly to avoid a dots case. However I don't think it's worth being neutral between the two.
shadowslice e
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I sometimes do this but only to force skips for L4E and if they are already solved during EO
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My best average from yesterday, for those interested:
Nice to join the club of official sub 10 Rouxers!
Nice to join the club of official sub 10 Rouxers!
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