[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[GuRoux]

I am mistaken, but I remember him saying something similar like how he had to either make **** up or wait for the other 3 people to make **** up.

yeah, i remember him saying that somewhere too, but the rest of it not really.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

yeah, i remember him saying that somewhere too, but the rest of it not really.

cool how far this method has come

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

It was in this thread or random cubing discussion or something.
I also remember him and Kir said that the fun was making ***** up and getting it disproven because of the limited people using the method.

 

[anothermau5]

It would be fun to being able to promote Roux though

 

[Eduard Khil]

Stuck at 20 seconds for 2 months?
Currently learning CMLL, 24 algs to go (Learnt all cases for CMLL except for Antisune, Sune, Bowtie, Pi)
Slow blocks (about 10-12 seconds), CMLL (3-5 seconds), LSE (3-5 sec)

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Stuck at 20 seconds for 2 months?
Currently learning CMLL, 24 algs to go (Learnt all cases for CMLL except for Antisune, Sune, Bowtie, Pi)
Slow blocks (about 10-12 seconds), CMLL (3-5 seconds), LSE (3-5 sec)

Learn cmll and drill blocks. Lse like that can get you sub 15 im pretty sure.

 

[GuRoux]

Stuck at 20 seconds for 2 months?
Currently learning CMLL, 24 algs to go (Learnt all cases for CMLL except for Antisune, Sune, Bowtie, Pi)
Slow blocks (about 10-12 seconds), CMLL (3-5 seconds), LSE (3-5 sec)

just continue learning cmll and practicing blocks. maybe your blocks are inefficient so try doing slow solves to better your blockbuilding skills.

 

[philipneri]

Howdy, I am new. I got my first cube about a month and half ago. I learned the Roux Method four days ago by watching DeeDubb's, LubixCube's, and Waffle's videos. I absolutely loved it and want to make it my main method. Quick question about color neutrality. On Gilles Roux's website, he recommends that you begin with one color set then later become more color neutral. How far along should I be before working on color neutrality? Sub-60 seconds? Sub-45 seconds? Thank you for your help.

 

[supercavitation]

Howdy, I am new. I got my first cube about a month and half ago. I learned the Roux Method four days ago by watching DeeDubb's, LubixCube's, and Waffle's videos. I absolutely loved it and want to make it my main method. Quick question about color neutrality. On Gilles Roux's website, he recommends that you begin with one color set then later become more color neutral. How far along should I be before working on color neutrality? Sub-60 seconds? Sub-45 seconds? Thank you for your help.

You should start working on color neutrality of whatever type (I'd recommend y/x2) as soon as possible. Several people (the only one I can think of at the moment is Kirjava) have complained about having started the way Gilles Roux recommends, and later realizing how incredibly difficult it is to become more color neutral. Get used to it while you're still slow, become as color neutral as you can, so that you don't have to get used to it while you're fast.

 

[philipneri]

You should start working on color neutrality of whatever type (I'd recommend y/x2) as soon as possible.

So I searched for y/x2 color neutrality. And I think I understand what it means. But just to make sure I understand properly. It means that I pick two opposite colors to always be either my top or bottom (I am going with white and yellow) and then any of the other four can be my left or right side.

 

[Berd]

So I searched for y/x2 color neutrality. And I think I understand what it means. But just to make sure I understand properly. It means that I pick two opposite colors to always be either my top or bottom (I am going with white and yellow) and then any of the other four can be my left or right side.

100% correct. You will go far!

 

[philipneri]

100% correct. You will go far!

Awesome. Thank you. I have a block building question. If my scramble does not already have an pre-made edge/corner pair, should I pick a pre-made center/edge pair and work off of that? Or should I try to find an edge/corner pair that is one or two turns away and start working off of that?

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Awesome. Thank you. I have a block building question. If my scramble does not already have an pre-made edge/corner pair, should I pick a pre-made center/edge pair and work off of that? Or should I try to find an edge/corner pair that is one or two turns away and start working off of that?

Start with whatever looks good. The best thing to do to practise blocks is to do untimed solves and try to get a solution of first block that is 9 moves or less.

 

[Ross The Boss]

Howdy, I am new. I got my first cube about a month and half ago. I learned the Roux Method four days ago by watching DeeDubb's, LubixCube's, and Waffle's videos. I absolutely loved it and want to make it my main method. Quick question about color neutrality. On Gilles Roux's website, he recommends that you begin with one color set then later become more color neutral. How far along should I be before working on color neutrality? Sub-60 seconds? Sub-45 seconds? Thank you for your help.

i believe that you should start building the desired habits as soon as possible. the structure and logistics of the method will always be the same, there is no real reason to limit yourself in any way as far as colour is concerned.

 

[cashis]

Hi! I've been CFOP solving for a little under 2 years now, and just started to lose interest because its basically the same thing every solve. I learned Roux from DeeDubb's thing, and I average around 35 seconds with it, which is a bit worse than my CFOP times, but thats to be expected. I haven't learned CMLL yet, but my question is what makes CMLL different than CLL? I dont understand why they have different names, or are considered different things, because its basically the same thing. I know you can use M slices in CMLL, but why does that make a difference if corners aren't effected by M slices?
thx

 

[Randomno]

Hi! I've been CFOP solving for a little under 2 years now, and just started to lose interest because its basically the same thing every solve. I learned Roux from DeeDubb's thing, and I average around 35 seconds with it, which is a bit worse than my CFOP times, but thats to be expected. I haven't learned CMLL yet, but my question is what makes CMLL different than CLL? I dont understand why they have different names, or are considered different things, because its basically the same thing. I know you can use M slices in CMLL, but why does that make a difference if corners aren't effected by M slices?
thx

CLL = doesn't preserve LL edges but preserves F2L.
CMLL = dosn't preserve M slice, UL, UR, but preserves F2B.
COLL = doesn't preserve LL edge permutation but preserves F2L and EO.

 

[cashis]

CLL = doesn't preserve LL edges but preserves F2L.
CMLL = dosn't preserve M slice, UL, UR, but preserves F2B.
COLL = doesn't preserve LL edge permutation but preserves F2L and EO.

thank u

 

[Berd]

CLL = doesn't preserve LL edges but preserves F2L.
CMLL = dosn't preserve M slice, UL, UR, but preserves F2B.
COLL = doesn't preserve LL edge permutation but preserves F2L and EO.

CLL doesn't preserve f2l, eg: R2 U2 R U2 R2

 

[GuRoux]

CLL doesn't preserve f2l, eg: R2 U2 R U2 R2

there's cll for 2x2 and cll for 3x3, the cll for 3x3 preserves f2l.

 

[cashis]

CLL doesn't preserve f2l, eg: R2 U2 R U2 R2

I think thats for 2x2