[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[PenguinsDontFly]

It might be unlisted. Like I said before though, it's probably only us who will look at the video if you post it here. It also won't show up on your channel.

Ok. I'll do that then. I only have 10 mins right now, then i have to go shopping, so I will try at 5:30

 

[pewpewrawr]

How dare you suggest that I am pestering him. It was another user that first suggested he video record and I merely agreed. Your comment is both rude and insulting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

i can't tell if you're being serious or not. my irony detector is going off, but it's not set at the right frequency to be accurate on this forum.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Ok. I'll do that then. I only have 10 mins right now, then i have to go shopping, so I will try at 5:30

5:30 my time btw, so in 9h, cuz I know for ryan its 7:30 right now, so 5:30 is 4:30, and kavin is -3 from me so rn its 5:30, so it will be 2:30. And no, im not shopping 9h, Im gonna be hangin out with some of my friends (who are non-cubers). So yeah. Expect a pm with a link before 6. I'll probably delete the vid tmr morning though lol.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Now for a post that isnt about my 'questionable progress'. I have a sort of 'idea' that isnt mine. In 13 cubers one scramble, alex used a different way to solve lse that I have never tried. Instead of solving eo, lr edges, ep, what I saw was eo, fb edges (on top), then ep skip. Is that what he did or am I blind? This could be very useful for someone like me who needs lse improvement more than blocks. The only problem i see with this method is that the fb pieces that go on U look very similar to the fb pieces that go on D. Any thoughts?

 

[JediJupiter]

Now for a post that isnt about my 'questionable progress'. I have a sort of 'idea' that isnt mine. In 13 cubers one scramble, alex used a different way to solve lse that I have never tried. Instead of solving eo, lr edges, ep, what I saw was eo, fb edges (on top), then ep skip. Is that what he did or am I blind? This could be very useful for someone like me who needs lse improvement more than blocks. The only problem i see with this method is that the fb pieces that go on U look very similar to the fb pieces that go on D. Any thoughts?

Maybe he did eo and lr in one step, which seems more likely and is more worth trying out. I'd say that if fb pieces are solved though, it'd hurt your recognition too much to treat the fb pieces as the rl pieces, especially since it might make little difference anyway. But give it a shot if you want. It's a good idea for fmc.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Maybe he did eo and lr in one step, which seems more likely and is more worth trying out. I'd say that if fb pieces are solved though, it'd hurt your recognition too much to treat the fb pieces as the rl pieces, especially since it might make little difference anyway. But give it a shot if you want. It's a good idea for fmc.

No, it was eo and fb on u for sure. Its the second solve: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pwx9Hi9HAk

 

[pewpewrawr]

solving f/b instead of l/r isn't really anything new, there are a few people on here who do it, i don't like solving lse that way so i don't. it's easier to do if you're y neutral.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

solving f/b instead of l/r isn't really anything new, there are a few people on here who do it, i don't like solving lse that way so i don't. it's easier to do if you're y neutral.

I dont think y neutrality helps. With blue block white bottom, ep edges to recognize are orange white/yellow, and red white/ yellow. With fb, same block its blue-yellow, green-yellow, orange-white, and red-white. All of these colors are different, and they are the same four confusing colors for green block, red block, and orange block.

 

[pewpewrawr]

I dont think y neutrality helps. With blue block white bottom, ep edges to recognize are orange white/yellow, and red white/ yellow. With fb, same block its blue-yellow, green-yellow, orange-white, and red-white. All of these colors are different, and they are the same four confusing colors for green block, red block, and orange block.

i have no idea what you just said, but i think it does help. when you're y neutral you already have practice permuting different l/r colors, not saying you can't do it otherwise, but it may be easier for those people.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

i have no idea what you just said, but i think it does help. when you're y neutral you already have practice permuting different l/r colors, not saying you can't do it otherwise, but it may be easier for those people.

I said that y neutrality doesnt help because in 4c all the colors of the edges are different.

 

[TheOneOnTheLeft]

I used to solve either UL/UR or UF/UB without preference, but without even intending to I stopped doing UF/UB and like pewpewrawr, I prefer it this way. I'm <x2, y> neutral, but it still throws me off when UF/UB is solved after EO and I try to solve EP from U/U' away. I talked to Kirjava and Alex about it a while ago: Kirjava reckoned it wouldn't affect recognition too much and was worth doing, and I think Alex said it wasn't something he did intentionally, but he might have started doing it since then (iirc it wasn't something he'd really considered doing before a mention of it on the forums prompted our conversation).

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

I think everyone keeps recording til they get a good average. My bad ao 12 are all still sub 15, but 60 percent of them are sub 13.7, with a few sub 13 ao 12 when Im doing well. I havent recorded anything yet for 2 reasons: first, I dont have a good camera with a tripod or even a good way to record since my desk is pretty small, and second, I dont feel comfortable uploading anything to youtube. You will see that I am legit once I post my wca profile (when I make one and when I find a freakin comp near me)

Lol. Don't worry about it. I'm not the one questioning your improvement. I think it's legit.

Anyway, a while ago I inquired about UF and UB solving instead of UL and UR. To me, it gets a little confusing even though I am y CN. In the discussion I think people came to the conclusion that UF and UB takes like 1-2 moves more??

 

[tukra]

I want to start learning full CMLL and need a strategy. I'm thinking maybe I should learn all 1-6 algs for the most common A-H case first. That would mean I could work on recognition for a whole set but keep it small enough to digest. Does this seem like a good approach? And what are the odds for each A-H orientation?

 

[DeeDubb]

I want to start learning full CMLL and need a strategy. I'm thinking maybe I should learn all 1-6 algs for the most common A-H case first. That would mean I could work on recognition for a whole set but keep it small enough to digest. Does this seem like a good approach? And what are the odds for each A-H orientation?

I learned group by group, one week at a time. I just went in order from Anti Sune to Double Headlights. If I did it again, I'd probably start with double headlights, because it's less algs to cover the same amount of cases (due to reflections).

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

Well I dont have time to cube today.... going to see the hobbit now... 3h movir. hopefully, vid will be up before 2015.

 

[JediJupiter]

I learned group by group, one week at a time. I just went in order from Anti Sune to Double Headlights. If I did it again, I'd probably start with double headlights, because it's less algs to cover the same amount of cases (due to reflections).

I did this, I'm putting off doing the L ones though because they're really awkward. I need to do them...

 

[CHJ]

I did this, I'm putting off doing the L ones though because they're really awkward. I need to do them...

the L cases is probably the easiest set, i'd try and do the asap really

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

I did this, I'm putting off doing the L ones though because they're really awkward. I need to do them...

Group by group is the way to go. I reccomend looking at your 2 look algs first, and learning to recognize those, and then starting with H.

 

[Artic]

Ok. I'll do that then. I only have 10 mins right now, then i have to go shopping, so I will try at 5:30

Okay, we'll be waiting for your vid Just post it unlisted like the others have said, and it'll be okay.

btw, hope you didn't take any offense to anything I said. It's just that a few of us are curious to see your solves in a video, that's all.

 

[GuRoux]

9.60, 9.13, (DNF 9.13), 9.06, (9.04)

9.1 average without the DNF but nice consistency.