#### Bindedsa

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Arghhh. How do you guys just 'know' the algs for OH immediately after learning them for 2h? It took me like a month just to do a T perm for OH
I don't use muscle memory to memorize algs, which doesn't transfer over to OH.

#### Petro Leum

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Arghhh. How do you guys just 'know' the algs for OH immediately after learning them for 2h? It took me like a month just to do a T perm for OH
wait wait wait how do you memorise algs then?
probably by memorising repeating "bits" of algs and/or movement of pairs, blocks etc.

any thoughts about OH splits though? i seriously need some advice as i'm like super stuck

#### guysensei1

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Arghhh. How do you guys just 'know' the algs for OH immediately after learning them for 2h? It took me like a month just to do a T perm for OH
I memorise a lot of my algs based on F2L pair movement. So mirroring them for OH works reasonably well. (Righty OH...)

#### joshsailscga

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wait wait wait how do you memorise algs then?

I'm working on learning COLL right now and I'm learning the algs by tracking where the different blocks are moving. It's so nice because I then have it immediately for OH as well

#### OLLiver

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probably by memorising repeating "bits" of algs and/or movement of pairs, blocks etc.
so you remember an alg as being composed of segments A, B AND C? where ABC are certain movements of pairs etc....how on earth do you guys do this?

#### joshsailscga

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so you remember an alg as being composed of segments A, B AND C? where ABC are certain movements of pairs etc....how on earth do you guys do this?
Here's an example with a COLL alg: R' U2 R' D' R U2 R' D R2
First, remove a pair: R' U2
Then, move the D block: R' D'
Replace the pair: R U2
Replace the block: R' D
R2 is obvious afterwards.

#### Yetiowin

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I am sub-25 at OH and I just use the 2H algs for LL. My LL can sometimes be up to half my solve. Should I learn OH OLL and PLL?

I don't use muscle memory to memorize algs, which doesn't transfer over to OH.
Really? I find that I can transfer my muscle memory to OH on almost all algs.

#### PenguinsDontFly

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I am sub-25 at OH and I just use the 2H algs for LL. My LL can sometimes be up to half my solve. Should I learn OH OLL and PLL?

Really? I find that I can transfer my muscle memory to OH on almost all algs.
OH PLL is necessary, and isn't even that hard to learn. OH PLL will depend on if you want to get serious about OH. Personally, I would do PLL now and oll later (to give a nice boost into sub 15).

#### Tanish

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I average like 55-1:00 for OH. I started practicing for OH in mid February. I can do some PLLs like T, U, A, Ga, Gc perms OH and almost all of the 2 look OLLs. So can you give me suggestions on how to improve at OH. I know that the most important factor for getting faster at any event, especially OH is practice. But is there something beside it that I can do? And is it the correct time for me to start doing all of the PLLs one handed (not the OLLs because I haven't even learnt them yet for 2H solving)?

#### Chree

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I average like 55-1:00 for OH. I started practicing for OH in mid February. I can do some PLLs like T, U, A, Ga, Gc perms OH and almost all of the 2 look OLLs. So can you give me suggestions on how to improve at OH. I know that the most important factor for getting faster at any event, especially OH is practice. But is there something beside it that I can do? And is it the correct time for me to start doing all of the PLLs one handed (not the OLLs because I haven't even learnt them yet for 2H solving)?
These are probably already in this thread somewhere... but here are the videos that helped me the most:

Antoine, Phil, and Weston's channels are full of great OH material. Check 'em out.

Edit: and the best website for OH specific alg sets is Antoine's: https://sites.google.com/site/antoineccantin/oh

#### OLLiver

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So I'm starting to love OH. I have very strong fingers and I can TPS very high
I avg around 25 with Like 10 PLLs and a 14 second F2L. I am learning more Algs for LL but any tips on reducing F2L time?
also what are some good splits for say sub 18

E: MY current splits
cross:3.2 seconds
F2L (inc cross) 15.1
LL:9.8

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#### SenorJuan

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@OLLiver: As you apparently have good TPS, it sounds like you need lower movecount and fewer cube rotations. And maybe your fast turn speed could be hampering your look-ahead? so do some slower solving, to work on your technique.
Make use of empty slots, know lots of ways to perform a particular step, be able to insert the pair into the diagonally-opposite slot from 'normal' (eg. a z-rotation to insert the BL slot).
I'm guessing other folks will say "show us a video", that may show up your weaknesses more.

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#### Ksh13

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Trying to finish off OH PLL, and I am wondering about if you guys use OH specific G perms or just the standard ones?

Edit: Also are there any videos out there about doing cross for OH? Sometimes it eats up way too much of my solve

#### NewCuber000

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Trying to finish off OH PLL, and I am wondering about if you guys use OH specific G perms or just the standard ones?

Edit: Also are there any videos out there about doing cross for OH? Sometimes it eats up way too much of my solve
I'm not an extremely fast OH solver or anything, but I actually use regular G-perms and I like them. depending on the G-perm you use, if you do them at a certain angle you don't need to make any rotations.

#### OLLiver

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So I am trying to get faster at OH, here are my splits
Cross 3.0 seconds
F2L (not including cross) 11 seconds
LL around 8 seconds.
I know the following PLLs a,e,f,2 g perms,h,j perms, n perms, R perms, U, T,V,Y perms for OH plus 2 look OLL
What do I need to work on most to achieve sub 20?

#### SuperZecton

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Hi,i want to get better and one handed and i've been using ring finger but alot of people have been saying that pinky is better.However,my pinky just can't reach far enough to do a R'.How do i improve,besides buying a smaller cube or making it looser?