[Help Thread] One-Handed Solving Discussion

[shadowslice e]

Thanks shadowslice..
And I just learned roux method as you said..
Now where will I get some good video to cut time on roux method..?
Also you told me tp learn zz method,so send me link for zz tutorial

just type in asmallkitten ZZ tutorial in YouTube to find the video series

Roux tutorial/tips http://wafflelikescubes.webs.com/

Also look at GuRoux, 5BLD, Cubing world and other channels for other good tips

 

[rajanish]

Okay...
Thank you

 

[noodlez]

What is the most finger-trick optimized (R and U' move based) method for OH solving? I'm just starting to get into OH. Also, I'm having a bit of trouble doing R, U, and F moves (U' is fine).

 

[shadowslice e]

What is the most finger-trick optimized (R and U' move based) method for OH solving? I'm just starting to get into OH. Also, I'm having a bit of trouble doing R, U, and F moves (U' is fine).

ZZ: most of it's 3-gen

 

[noodlez]

ZZ: most of it's 3-gen

Any specific variant?

 

[shadowslice e]

Any specific variant?

For LL? Not really. They seem to mostly be pretty much the same in terms of OH effectiveness. Just straight ZZ (COLL+ELL) is great because the solve would go

1) EoLine: 6-gen
2) FB (Extend to 2x2x3): 3-gen
3) SB (finishing F2L): 2-gen
4): LL: COLL: usually 3-gen, small chance of 2-gen
. ELL: 2-gen

You could also try the ZZ/petrus hybrid that someone came up with a while ago:
1) 2x2x2: 6-gen
2) Orient edges + solve 1x2x2 in FUR: 3-gen
3) same as above

 

[noodlez]

For LL? Not really. They seem to mostly be pretty much the same in terms of OH effectiveness. Just straight ZZ (COLL+ELL) is great because the solve would go

1) EoLine: 6-gen
2) FB (Extend to 2x2x3): 3-gen
3) SB (finishing F2L): 2-gen
4): LL: COLL: usually 3-gen, small chance of 2-gen
. ELL: 2-gen

You could also try the ZZ/petrus hybrid that someone came up with a while ago:
1) 2x2x2: 6-gen
2) Orient edges + solve 1x2x2 in FUR: 3-gen
3) same as above

Isn't EOLine basically half cross? And do you have any tips on L U F and R?

 

[shadowslice e]

Isn't EOLine basically half cross? And do you have any tips on L U F and R?

I'm not great at OH but use the Japanese style which is flick based as your fingertricking. Also, watch asmallkitten and some cubing world videos for good OH tips

And no, EoLine is not half cross as you will have to orient all the other edges on the cube while solving the FD and BD edges

 

[molarmanful]

Which is the best method for one handed cubing for cubers using their left hand?
Also from where I can learn them?
Please post some link

I use a sort of CFOP, sort of Petrus method. Basically, I do 2x2x3 block with extra cross piece through block-building or CFOP stuff. After, I do Petrus EO, 2-gen F2L finish, and LL with solved EOLL.
The extra cross piece makes it easier to recognize and execute the EO because all of the bad edges are now away from the least visible spot, which is handy especially when your hand is blocking that spot. Also, after EO, you get super-fast-TPS F2L finish, which is awesome, considering that I practice 2-gen OH solves all the time.
I find this a great compromise between CFOP (no EO until the LS, where VHLS is super-OH-unfriendly) and ZZ (which I just can't get the hang of EOLine for some reason).

 

[WowIsThatA10x10]

Actually H-perm one-handed is really nice
Place the cube on the table with the top face on front, holding it in an angle of about 45°. You can easily do the standard 2-handed fingertricks. The table will prevent the right layer to move while you do the M-moves.

Yes, I agree. You can use the table to execute h perms and z perms (or other algs with m moves)

 

[WowIsThatA10x10]

Hi
I average about 35 -45 seconds (ish) OH
Breakdown:
Cross:4secs
F2l 25secs
Oll 30 secs
Pll 46secs (depends on what pll I get )

The breakdown is based on average.
I think I need to work on fluidity and don't know what to work on

 

[Berd]

Hi
I average about 35 -45 seconds (ish) OH
Breakdown:
Cross:4secs
F2l 25secs
Oll 30 secs
Pll 46secs (depends on what pll I get )

The breakdown is based on average.
I think I need to work on fluidity and don't know what to work on

Do you use your pinky to do R moves? I was at your speed and switched, it pays of in the end.

 

[SenorJuan]

"Hi
I average about 35 -45 seconds (ish) OH
Breakdown:
Cross:4secs
F2l 25secs....."
21 secs for 4 slots is something you can work on, every improvement is multiplied 4 - fold. Cut down cube rotations, work on reducing move-count, use empty slots if you don't already. Is your lookahead OK? That tends to come naturally, eventually.

 

[WowIsThatA10x10]

Yes I do use my pinky for r moves- started a few days ago.
I'm sub 16 on normal 3x3 and my look ahead is quite good.
Ok so I need to work on f2l then.

 

[GuRoux]

Do you use your pinky to do R moves? I was at your speed and switched, it pays of in the end.

is it really thst important? i still use ring finger, it doesn't seem that bad.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

is it really thst important? i still use ring finger, it doesn't seem that bad.

wait what! I didnt know you used ring finger!

 

[GuRoux]

wait what! I didnt know you used ring finger!

i do pinky rarely, but i usually do pinky reverse flick.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

i do pinky rarely, but i usually do pinky reverse flick.

I can imagine that being the dominant way in the future. However, it requires large hands so sorry all ya small-handed ones.

 

[GuRoux]

I can imagine that being the dominant way in the future. However, it requires large hands so sorry all ya small-handed ones.

yeah, i guess my hand is pretty long, a little over 8 inches from wrist to middle finger.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

yeah, i guess my hand is pretty long, a little over 8 inches from wrist to middle finger.

damn, mines the same now. I remember we measured last year and mine was smaller. and yet I suck at OH

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