My Quest for Sub 8 Petrus

[PetrusQuber]

Thanks

 

[Etotheipi]

AgggGghGhGghg ALert Alert!!!! I saw you had 26 subs, then i went to your about page and it changed to 25! Who is the traitor?

edit: Wait it goes back to 26 when i go back to the home screen false alarm.

 

[PetrusQuber]

WTH exactly on my 900th solve on ChaoTimer I was doing so badly, then an unwanted LL SKIP SAVED ME AAAAAAAHHHHH. My first one since starting seriously cubing I think, and it goes onto a bad solve. :/

AgggGghGhGghg ALert Alert!!!! I saw you had 26 subs, then i went to your about page and it changed to 25! Who is the traitor?

edit: Wait it goes back to 26 when i go back to the home screen false alarm.

Lol well that narrows it down to the people on Speedsolving.com

 

[brododragon]

I'm trying to learn full PLL, but don't know if I should learn COLL instead. Which one do you think is better?

 

[PetrusQuber]

I’d say PLL first, since there are less cases, and it has easier recognition. You’ll probably use PLL for S and AS as well, since the OCLL algorithms are so fast. Then build on your COLL knowledge. I did it that way, and anyway, you’ll learn both sooner or later.


Also, the Wuest is coming to an end . It’s been over a month now. It will go back to the old title.

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

I'm trying to learn full PLL, but don't know if I should learn COLL instead. Which one do you think is better?

PLL, though I was that weird kid who averaged 17 and knew only COLL

 

[ketchupcuber]

feliks zemdegs doesnt think coll is good at all forr 3x3 he says its faster to do normal oll and pll

 

[PetrusQuber]

Was he talking about CFOP or in general?

 

[ProStar]

feliks zemdegs doesnt think coll is good at all forr 3x3 he says its faster to do normal oll and pll

That's for CFOP. He thinks it's faster to do OLL & PLL is faster for CFOP. And while I agree with him, Feliks isn't the final authority for everything cubing related, although that's another discussion. For Petrus, the edges are oriented automatically, and COLL/EPLL is better than OLL/PLL in almost all cases(S/AS being questionable exceptions)

 

[RedstoneTim]

"Personally, I don't use too much COLL during two-handed solving as, in a lot of the cases, it's just faster to do the quickest OLL algorithm and then do your PLL."
- Feliks Zemdegs (Source)

You might also want to check out some of Antoine Cantin's videos about COLL+EPLL vs OCLL+PLL for 2H and OH.
Also my own opinion is that for 2H, option select is the best thing to do: If you feel that the COLL for that case is a lot worse, just do the OCLL. However if you're going for ZBLL, COLL might be beneficial for learning part of the recognition.

 

[PapaSmurf]

In terms of absolute speed, COLL/EPLL isn't better than OCLL/PLL, but ZBLL trumps all. The biggest point of learning COLL is to give you a good ZBLL springboard. So if your end goal is ZBLL, COLL. If you're using Petrus or ZZ or LEOR and ZBLL isn't your end goal, re-examine that.

 

[WarriorCatCuber]

In terms of absolute speed, COLL/EPLL isn't better than OCLL/PLL, but ZBLL trumps all. The biggest point of learning COLL is to give you a good ZBLL springboard. So if your end goal is ZBLL, COLL. If you're using Petrus or ZZ or LEOR and ZBLL isn't your end goal, re-examine that.

But couldn't you just learn COLL recog as a springboard ?

 

[brododragon]

Thanks. I think I'm going to learn full PLL, then COLL, then ZBLL.

 

[WarriorCatCuber]

Thanks. I think I'm going to learn full PLL, then COLL, then ZBLL.

ZZLL can also bee used between COLL and ZBLL. It one-looks the LL like ZBLL.

 

[brododragon]

ZZLL can also bee used between COLL and ZBLL. It one-looks the LL like ZBLL.

I'll probably learn ZZLL in-between COLL and ZBLL. It will also cut down the algs I have to learn since COLL and ZZLL are parts of ZBLL.

 

[PetrusQuber]

Oh my god yes I got a PB Ao5!!!! Counting 13 won it, really good solves.

 

[PapaSmurf]

ZZLL, compared to COLL, has no impact. ZZLL is changing different steps other than LL, whereas you can just learn ZBLL and add it into your solves as you go along.

 

[WarriorCatCuber]

ZZLL, compared to COLL, has no impact. ZZLL is changing different steps other than LL, whereas you can just learn ZBLL and add it into your solves as you go along.

Petrus-b is better then Petrus-VH, but Petrus-a is still better.

 

[PetrusQuber]

With one thousand solves comes a sub 16 average. With one thousand solves comes a 13.891 PB ao5. With one thousand solves comes CHEESEBURGERS

No seriously though I’m really proud . The PB was crazy, 2 counting 13s there. 6 second improvement since starting at 0 solves

 

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M U' B' U' L' U L 7/7
M' U' R' U' r' 5/12
U2 R' U' R' F R F' R U' R' U2 R 12/24
M' U2 M' U2 M U' M' U M' U2 M' U M2 U' M2 15/39

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