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Magnetic vs non magnetic

Llewelys

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I don’t think there a way to measure magnet strength
Actually there is ! People use N35, N38, etc all the way up to N52 (the higher the number the stronger the magnets)
So I'm asking if someone knows that number :)
 

Mody

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Actually there is ! People use N35, N38, etc all the way up to N52 (the higher the number the stronger the magnets)
So I'm asking if someone knows that number :)
I know there is I meant there is no way to Measure magnets in a cube installed by a factory
 

Llewelys

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I know there is I meant there is no way to Measure magnets in a cube installed by a factory
Oh yeah ok, sorry ;) I was asking because maybe someone knew, either by knowing someone working at the cubicle / scs, or by experimenting with magnets and finding that a certain neo rating was closest to what is used in the Valk ;)
 

Llewelys

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Update: I wasn't sure whether I'd like having magnets in my cube so I bought the weakest ones (4x1 N35).
I glued them trying not to mess up polarity and I succeeded on all of them except one, but I managed to take it out and put it back correctly.
I did a few turns and it was immediate: do not buy 4x1 N35 magnets, they are way too weak it's like they're barely there.
I had to turn extremely slowly to feel them: my solves are usually around 3 TPS (mainly because of pauses but that's another story) so imagine what I mean by extremely slowly.

So I thought "well, I managed to take out a magnet when the glue had dried (the one with the wrong polarity), I can take them all out and put stronger magnets instead". So I bought 4x1.5 and 4x2 N35 magnets.

Boy was I wrong, I barely succeeded in taking 3 magnets out. I tried acetone, using a screwdriver, soaking the pieces in hot soapy water for a few hours, it did nothing.

So I did the only thing I could think of: gluing the 4x1.5 magnets on top of the 4x1 magnets.

It took a few hours but the strength is fine for me, I'm happy with the result and in the end it was a fun experience!
 

xyzzy

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So I did the only thing I could think of: gluing the 4x1.5 magnets on top of the 4x1 magnets.
For future reference: you actually don't even need to glue them; just let the additional magnets sit on top of the ones you've already glued.

Also, this is kinda subjective, but I think it's most useful to think about magnets as improving stability, rather than providing that oh-so-satisfying little snap at the end of each turn. It's absolutely fine if you can't "feel" the magnets when turning quickly, as long as they're doing their job of stabilising the cube. (Of course, if you're magnetising your cube only for the satisfying snaps, rather than to improve performance, then feel free to ignore this.)
 

GAN 356 X

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Update: I wasn't sure whether I'd like having magnets in my cube so I bought the weakest ones (4x1 N35).
I glued them trying not to mess up polarity and I succeeded on all of them except one, but I managed to take it out and put it back correctly.
I did a few turns and it was immediate: do not buy 4x1 N35 magnets, they are way too weak it's like they're barely there.
I had to turn extremely slowly to feel them: my solves are usually around 3 TPS (mainly because of pauses but that's another story) so imagine what I mean by extremely slowly.

So I thought "well, I managed to take out a magnet when the glue had dried (the one with the wrong polarity), I can take them all out and put stronger magnets instead". So I bought 4x1.5 and 4x2 N35 magnets.

Boy was I wrong, I barely succeeded in taking 3 magnets out. I tried acetone, using a screwdriver, soaking the pieces in hot soapy water for a few hours, it did nothing.

So I did the only thing I could think of: gluing the 4x1.5 magnets on top of the 4x1 magnets.

It took a few hours but the strength is fine for me, I'm happy with the result and in the end it was a fun experience!
Sometimes after much research and fretting just jumping in and winging is the way to go! I do that with cross sometimes, and when I first lubed my cubes
 
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