Looking for COPLS algorithms

[Eiwaa]

Hi everyone,

I’m just a cube enjoyer, I don’t do competitions or focus on times, I solve purely for fun.

I currently use ZZ-4C (also called ZZ-LSE, a ZZ-Roux hybrid approach), and I’m interested in learning ZZ-4C+ as a more advanced extension of it.

From what I’ve seen on Speedsolving, ZZ-4C+ follows the same start as ZZ-4C, but instead of doing last slot + COLL + LSE, it uses COPLS (Corner Orientation and Permutation Last Slot), which has around 162 algorithms. This replaces COLL and the last slot handling, leaving only LSE at the end.

I’ve seen ZZ-4C+ mentioned in the “General Variants” section of the ZZ method page alongside ZZ-4C, where COPLS is referenced, but there doesn’t seem to be any dedicated page or source listing the algorithms. I also haven’t been able to find any COPLS algorithm sets or structured resources elsewhere.

So I was wondering if anyone knows where I could find COPLS algorithms or any reliable resources about them.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[CrossPetrus]

I don’t know where to find them, but if you give me a day I can definitely generate them. I should have them soon.

 

[CrossPetrus]

Here are the algs, these are all RUF, I will give you better ones that are RUFDL later, but it will take more time to gen and these should already be pretty good. They average 11.65 stm.

RUF COPLS.xlsx

docs.google.com

 

[CrossPetrus]

It took over 3 hours, but here are RUFDL COPLS algs, they average 10.51 stm.

COPLS.xlsx

docs.google.com

 

[Eiwaa]

It took over 3 hours, but here are RUFDL COPLS algs, they average 10.51 stm.

COPLS.xlsx

docs.google.com

Thanks a lot for this, I really appreciate the time you put into it. Spending hours putting all these algs together is honestly mad impressive, these sheets are exactly what I was looking for. I didn’t expect that at all. It’s really cool to see resources like this for less common methods too, it helps a lot. Thanks again, this really means a lot!

 

[CrossPetrus]

Thanks a lot for this, I really appreciate the time you put into it. Spending hours putting all these algs together is honestly mad impressive, these sheets are exactly what I was looking for. I didn’t expect that at all. It’s really cool to see resources like this for less common methods too, it helps a lot. Thanks again, this really means a lot!

Yeah it didn’t really take much time from me as I just let the program run in my sleep. But yeah, it can take a while, especially when you use a large generator (how many different moves the solution can use). I once was genning an alg set, but then realized it was predicted to take ~18 hours! There are still some bad cases, so I’ll probably run those individually with wide moves and slice moves included, to try and get a good alg. I’ll keep you posted on any updates I make to the alg set.

 

[Constant Cuber]

Hi everyone,

I’m just a cube enjoyer, I don’t do competitions or focus on times, I solve purely for fun.

I currently use ZZ-4C (also called ZZ-LSE, a ZZ-Roux hybrid approach), and I’m interested in learning ZZ-4C+ as a more advanced extension of it.

From what I’ve seen on Speedsolving, ZZ-4C+ follows the same start as ZZ-4C, but instead of doing last slot + COLL + LSE, it uses COPLS (Corner Orientation and Permutation Last Slot), which has around 162 algorithms. This replaces COLL and the last slot handling, leaving only LSE at the end.

I’ve seen ZZ-4C+ mentioned in the “General Variants” section of the ZZ method page alongside ZZ-4C, where COPLS is referenced, but there doesn’t seem to be any dedicated page or source listing the algorithms. I also haven’t been able to find any COPLS algorithm sets or structured resources elsewhere.

So I was wondering if anyone knows where I could find COPLS algorithms or any reliable resources about them.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

Hello from another ZZ-4c user! I looked at this Algset recently also and decided that 162 algs is too much. That said you may find a lot more info on WVCP algset which is the same as COPLS.

WVCP - Speedsolving.com Wiki

www.speedsolving.com