Last Layer times? PLL, OLL, COLL, etc

[Ezy Ryder]

Many cubers (who use CFOP) do the LL faster than F2L. And considering Your total times, I think they are pretty good. But You know, You can always get better.
Ps.: I think I also have a ~(2:1) F2L to LL ratio.

 

[Ickenicke]

I think 2:1 is pretty normal.

 

[Escher]

Don't worry too much about your PLL times imo. If you're going to worry about them at all - practice difficult to recognise cases. Also, your Rb and Ra can probably be a little bit faster, and your Z really shouldn't be that slow. Practice M-slice algs! Learn the <M, U> U perms (M2 U' M U2' M' U' M2 and inv) and practice those too, as you begin to use more advanced algs for OLL etc, being able to use slice moves effectively will be important.

If you have trouble with the style of execution, watch Breandan Vallance's videos, as he has basically flawless technique you'll be copying the best.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was that you should practice your f2l!
Concentrating purely on f2l for a long time (think 10-12s f2l) will help you understand a lot more about good fingertricks and good turning style, and by the time you come to want to break sub 20, all you have to do is drill your LL a bunch

This way is far more rewarding than getting a fast LL first, imo.

 

[Kirjava]

Oi, rowan. Did you sub1 J yet?

 

[Escher]

Oi, rowan. Did you sub1 J yet?

Nope, sub 1.10 is easy now though. Need to work on my picking-up skillz.

 

[Kirjava]

I should buy a stackmat and practise.

better than magic

 

[antoineccantin]

1.2ish

 

[cityzach]

under 2 secs for each, most of them are sub 1. normal times are around 1.2 ish

 

[emolover]

Half of them it is under one but for the other half(G, N, V, A) its around 1.7.

 

[Riley]

1.56 was my average of all of them. I average 13.5 secs on 3x3.

 

[FinnGamer]

I have every alg sub 3 (except n -.-) so my avg is about 2.7, excluding recognition.

 

[~Adam~]

I can sub 3 all of them and sub 2 Us, M, Z, Js, As and Rs. My T perm sucks though. I guess I should try to learn better finger tricks but I'm just so lazy.

 

[NSKuber]

Executed every alg severeal times to get time without lockup:
cw U: 0.77
ccw U: 0.91
H: 0.69
Z: 0.91
some A: 0.90
other A: 0.94
E: 0.94
Right R: 1.11
Left R: 1.15
G(R U R'): 1.21
G(R2 Uw'): 1.58
G(R' U' R): 1.33
G(R2 Uw): 1.47
Left J: 0.93
Right J: 0.94
N(R U R' D): 1.25
N(R' U R U'): 1.46
T: 0.84
Y: 1.25
F: 1.25
V: 1.34
Average: 1.10(3)

 

[Applecow]

T-Perm 1,07
A-Perm cw 1,03
A-Perm ccw 1,06
U-Perm ccw 0,86
U-Perm cw 1,07
H-Perm 0,91
Z-Perm 1,21
J-Perm 1,04
J-Perm 1,08
V-Perm 1,72
F-Perm 1,63
N-Perm 1,52
N-Perm 1,74
Y-Perm 1,36
E-Perm 1,37
G-Perm 1,34
G-Perm 1,50
G-Perm 1,83
G-Perm 1,81

 

[blackzabbathfan]

Session average: 2.31 Session Mean: 2.31
A. 1.96
A. 1.94
E. 2.34
F. 2.91
G. (4.44)
G. 3.21
G. 2.41
G. 3.09
H. 1.46
Bad J. 2.02
Good J. 1.40
Good N. 3.08
Bad N. (3.58)
Right Handed R . 2.52
Left Handed R. 2.47
T. (1.38)
CCW U. (1.19)
CCU. 1.77
V. 2.72
Y. 1.61
Z. 2.30

 

[Rpotts]

I did this back in July11, some have gotten faster since then. I don't have a stackmat anymore, lost at Cubetcha11 :C, so I know a few of those have gotten faster, most notably Ra and probably Na too. I don't really use that Acw anymore either, pretty much only use x' R' U R' etc.

Acw - .82 --- x' R2 D2 R' U' R D2 R' U R' (9, 10.98 TPS)
Accw - .99 -- x R2 D2 R U R' D2 R U' R (9, 9.09 TPS)
E - .99 ----- x' R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (16, 16.16 TPS)

CPLL Avg - .9333

Ucw - .74 --- M2' U' M U2' M' U' M2' (11, 14.86 TPS)
Uccw - .85 -- R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 (11, 12.94 TPS)
H - .85 ----- M2' U' M2' U2' M2' U' M2' (11, 12.94 TPS)
Z - .98 ----- M' U' M2' U' M2' U' M' U2' M2' (14, 14.29 TPS)

EPLL Avg - .855

L - .86 ----- x' r U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R (11, 12.79 TPS)
J - .82 ----- R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' (13, 15.85 TPS)
T - .91 ----- R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' (14, 15.38 TPS)
F - 1.53 ---- R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' U R (18, 11.76 TPS)
Ra - 1.38 --- R U' R' U' R U R D R' U' R D' R' U2 R' (15, 10.87 TPS)
Rb - 1.17 --- R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 (13, 11.11 TPS)

Adj PLL Avg - 1.112

Ga - 1.26 ----- R2 u R' U R' U' R u' R2 y' R' U R (12, 9.53 TPS)
Gb - 1.20 ----- F' U' F R2 u R' U R U' R u' R2 (12, 10 TPS)
Gc - 1.44 ----- R2' u' R U' R U R' u R2 y R U' R' (12, 8.33 TPS)
Gd - 1.33 ----- R U R' y' R2 u' R U' R' U R' u R2 (12, 9.02 TPS)

G PLL Avg - 1.3075

Y - 1.19 ----- F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' (17, 14.29 TPS)
V - 1.39 ----- R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F (14, 10.07 TPS)
Na - 1.44 ---- z R' U R' D R2 U' R U D' R' D R2 U' R D' (15, 10.42 TPS)
Nb - 1.57 ---- R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' U' R U' y R U R' (17, 10.83 TPS)

Diag PLL Avg - 1.3975

 

[alfacuber]

T-Perm 0.86
A-Perm cw 0.83
A-Perm ccw 0.88
U-Perm ccw 0.88
U-Perm cw 0.81
H-Perm 0.86
Z-Perm 1.00
Jb-Perm 0.78
Ja-Perm 1.05
V-Perm 1.33
F-Perm 1.30
Na-Perm 1.44
Nb-Perm 1.05
Y-Perm 1.03
E-Perm 0.81
Ga-Perm 1.08
Gb-Perm 1.02
Gc-Perm 1.25
Gd-Perm 1.15

average: 1.01
so close to sub 1!

 

[Kirjava]

U 0.95
U 1.02
H 1.08
Z 1.30
A 0.83
A 0.96
E 1.30
G 1.34
G 1.83
G 1.88
G 1.99
J 0.90
J 1.05
N 1.98
N 1.93
R 1.25
R 1.71
T 0.88
V 1.55
F 1.98
Y 1.38

lolme

 

[Sa967St]

H 1.44, Ua 1.08, Ub 1.10, Z 1.52, Aa 1.05, Ab 1.37, E 2.18, F 1.58, Ga 1.63, Gb 1.87 , Gc 1.38, Gd 1.58, Ja 0.95, Jb 1.17, Na 1.99, Nb 1.82, Ra 1.59, Rb 1.34, T 1.17, V 1.53, Y 1.54

The mean is 1.44.

H 1.20
Ua 0.97
Ub 0.78
Z 1.05
Aa 0.84
Ab 0.93
E 1.68
F 1.45
Ga 1.51
Gb 1.12
Gc 1.32
Gd 1.23
Ja 0.71
Jb 0.78
Na 1.55
Nb 1.80
Ra 1.48
Rb 1.20
T 0.83
V 1.49
Y 1.52

weighted mean: 1.173

All of the times were better than before, but some of them were just barely better. I guess I haven't improved all that much in 3 years.

 

[antoineccantin]

Mean: 1.03