Last Layer times? PLL, OLL, COLL, etc

My best averages of 12 over the past year:
Code: 
Uccw	0.92
Ucw	1.01
J1	1.31
H	1.16
Z	1.28
T	1.35
Accw	1.27
R1	1.3
J2	1.45
Y	1.63
Acw	1.57
V	1.86
E	1.9
R2	1.85
G2	2.11
G1	1.93
G1'	2.1
F	1.96
N2	2.06
G2'	2.23
N1	2.26
Overall unweighted average: 1.64

Edit: Some of these times are outdated.
I'm probably faster now on J, H, T, A, V but slower on E, R1, F.
 
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Since I 2LPLL my PLL is anywhere between 2-3sec and up to 5-6 seconds. My LL as a whole (often 4 look) cane take anywhere from 5 seconds (had as low as 4, 1 look OLL and 1 look PLL both easy cases too) to 10-15 seconds. I hate my LL. It seems when I get a nice F2L (for me it's nice hah) around 15 I'll have a 15 second LL, when I should be breaking 30 every time I F2L a 15. And it seems whenever I get a 20-22 second F2L I get a 5 second LL.
 
With no warm up. I did avg's of 5 for each PLL.

E: 1.28
U1: 1.06
U2: 1.10
A1: 1.20
A2: 1.18

J1: 1.15
J2: 1.21
G1: 1.37
G2: 1.40
G3: 1.35

G4: 1.33
N1: 1.49
N2: 1.50
H: 0.95
Z: 1.25

F: 1.40
R1: 1.27
R2: 1.20
Y: 1.40
T: 1.30

V: 1.30

Mean: 1.27
 
Mean of 21 PLLs: 3.40
I can now do a PLL time attack in sub-80 seconds, thanks to some big recent improvements in my R and V perms. I wonder if I could actually work really hard on my PLLs and get fast? If so, that would be an awfully easy second or two to cut off my solve times, wouldn't it?

rubiknewbie said:
You guys are insane. I am satisfied if I can get a perm around 3 sec except the U perms :fp.
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Me too. Well, I'm slightly sub-3 on T, H, and J's, and sometimes A's. And my U perms are also only slightly sub-3.

rubiknewbie said:
3x3 - PB: 21.53 (20.00); 3 of 5: 26.42; 10 of 12: 27.79; avg 100: 30.56
Arguably the slowest cuber who knows Full Fridrich
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I'm not that far behind. There was a point when I knew full Fridrich and my times were significantly worse than yours are now. :)
 
I'm a failure at the last layer in general, but here they are anyway. I did an average of 5.

E: 03.91

Ua: 02.57
Ub: 02.49

Aa: 03.89
Ab: 03.63

Ja: 02.69
Jb: 03.61

Ga: 04.22
Gb: 04.05
Gc: 04.53
Gd: 04.47

Na & Nb: Haven't learned any permanent ones.

H: 02.89
Z: 03.98

V: 04.08
F: 05.13

Ra: 03.45
Rb: 05.10

Y: 03.32
T: 02.76

Overall: 3.72

PLL's that I'm definitely going to change are E, Z, F, Rb, and maybe some others if I find better ones. The rest, I just need to practice some more. I could probably shave off half a second+ after my storebought is broken in more. I need to re-lube it soon as well.

~Rook
 
These aren't averages, I just kinda went until I didn't lock up. Mean of 21 was 1.30

A: 0.84
A: 0.84
E: 1.19
F: 1.90
G's: 1.27, 1.22, 1.97, 1.46
H: 1.03
Jb: 1.06
Ja: 0.97
Right Bar N: 1.74
Left Bar N: 1.84
Good R: 1.16
Bad R: 1.63
T: 1.25
U counter: 0.97
U: 0.94
V: 1.38
Y: 1.58
Z: 1.05
 
H - 1.29
N1 - 2.31
N2 - 2.25
G1 - 2.05
G2 - 2.01
G3 - 2.11
G4 - 2.07
E - 2.12
F - 2.21
V - 1.81
A1 - 1.34
A2 - 1.56
U1 - 1.05
U2 - 1.25
Z - 1.84
T - 1.39
J1 - 1.35
J2 - 1.33
R1 - 1.71
R2 - 2.23
Y - 1.91

mean - 1.77

Yikes. Some of these kill me.
 
I did an avg5 (re-doing ones with lockups) for each PLL

H 1.44
Ua 1.08
Ub 1.10
Z 1.52
Aa 1.05
Ab 1.37
E 2.18
F 1.58
Ga 1.63
Gb 1.87
Gc 1.38
Gd 1.58
Ja 0.95
Jb 1.17
Na 1.99
Nb 1.82
Ra 1.59
Rb 1.34
T 1.17
V 1.53
Y 1.54


the mean is 1.44 :(
 
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qqwref said:
2.259 mean of 21.

Since I usually sub50 my PLL attacks (often sub45) I think I am wasting too much time starting and stopping the timer when I time algs individually. Oh well.

Also, my best time for any PLL ever is, like, 1.3? I dunno how people do algs megafast.
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I'm with qqwref. Seriously, how do people have such fast finishes. I'll come back and edit in my averages (not weighted), but I have to know how people do that so fast. I usually start with the cube out of my hands, with no recog time on badmephisto's PLL trainer. Maybe that's why my T is only ~2.5 seconds, and I average out to 3.0-3.5, but I average low 20's. But I have found that my attacks are really crappy (63-65).

Corners_Three_Cycle_Clockwise_(A1):_____avg: 3.32, std: 0.47, num: 22
Corners_Three_Cycle_Anti-Clockwise_(A2):avg: 4.14, std: 0.70, num: 30
Parallel_Corners_Swap_(E):______________avg: 4.32, std: 0.42, num: 15
Adjacent_Edges_Swap_(Z):________________avg: 3.73, std: 0.76, num: 9
Opposite_Edges_Swap_(H):________________avg: 2.57, std: 0.51, num: 8
Edges_Three_Cycle_Anti-Clockwise_(U1):__avg: 3.00, std: 0.64, num: 23
Edges_Three_Cycle_Clockwise_(U2):_______avg: 2.84, std: 0.34, num: 20
Push_Push_(Jb):_________________________avg: 3.21, std: 0.48, num: 19
Push_Push_Upside_Down_(Ja):_____________avg: 2.96, std: 0.65, num: 31
T_perm_(T):_____________________________avg: 2.95, std: 0.72, num: 25
Lucky_7_(Rb):__________________________avg: 3.84, std: 0.40, num: 17
Lucky_7_Upside-Down_(Ra):______________avg: 3.94, std: 0.48, num: 35
Parallell_Lines_(F):___________________avg: 4.15, std: 0.52, num: 23
Edges+Corners_Three_Cycle_(Gc):________avg: 3.85, std: 0.38, num: 19
Edges+Corners_Three_Cycle_(Ga):________avg: 3.90, std: 0.62, num: 29
Edges+Corners_Three_Cycle_(Gb):________avg: 4.47, std: 0.67, num: 28
Edges+Corners_Three_Cycle_(Gd):________avg: 4.01, std: 0.93, num: 18
V_Perm_(V):____________________________avg: 3.56, std: 0.42, num: 28
N_Perm_(Na):___________________________avg: 4.84, std: 0.21, num: 2
N_Perm_(Nb):___________________________avg: 4.60, std: 0.58, num: 5
Y_Perm_(Y):____________________________avg: 3.70, std: 0.80, num: 24
Total Average: 3.89

What I decided to go was include the recognition time, but have the cube in my hands because that's how you start a PLL. Sorry it took me so long to do this. I actually immediately thought of my PLL attacks because I am scraping 60. So can I say I'm exactly three with about .9 seconds of recognition?
 
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Yeah, my average for PLLs are probably ~2.5 seconds. And since I average about 15 seconds, that's pretty sad.
 
Mike Hughey said:
Mean of 21 PLLs: 3.40
I can now do a PLL time attack in sub-80 seconds, thanks to some big recent improvements in my R and V perms. I wonder if I could actually work really hard on my PLLs and get fast? If so, that would be an awfully easy second or two to cut off my solve times, wouldn't it?

rubiknewbie said:
You guys are insane. I am satisfied if I can get a perm around 3 sec except the U perms :fp.
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Me too. Well, I'm slightly sub-3 on T, H, and J's, and sometimes A's. And my U perms are also only slightly sub-3.

rubiknewbie said:
3x3 - PB: 21.53 (20.00); 3 of 5: 26.42; 10 of 12: 27.79; avg 100: 30.56
Arguably the slowest cuber who knows Full Fridrich
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I'm not that far behind. There was a point when I knew full Fridrich and my times were significantly worse than yours are now. :)
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What is more important is that I lock up often and can end up with PLLs of 5-7 sec. Like T perm locks up easily for me. I am learning to control my strength better.

I would really like to see Dan Brown's PLL times.
 
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lilkdub503 said:
qqwref said:
2.259 mean of 21.

Since I usually sub50 my PLL attacks (often sub45) I think I am wasting too much time starting and stopping the timer when I time algs individually. Oh well.

Also, my best time for any PLL ever is, like, 1.3? I dunno how people do algs megafast.
Click to expand...

I'm with qqwref. Seriously, how do people have such fast finishes. I'll come back and edit in my averages (not weighted), but I have to know how people do that so fast. I usually start with the cube out of my hands, with no recog time on badmephisto's PLL trainer. Maybe that's why my T is only ~2.5 seconds, and I average out to 3.0-3.5, but I average low 20's. But I have found that my attacks are really crappy (63-65).
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Ya what the hell is going on?! Why is everyone doing sub-2 like nobody's business :eek:?

But you should start with the cube in hand for this test, I think the aim is to see execution rather than recog.
 
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2.97 >.> The G's drove up my average. Most of them are around 2.25-2.50, which I still don't think is as fast as I want them to be. Oh well
 
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