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How to be sub 20

Twelvangla

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Any help to average consistently on sub-20? when I'm warmed up, I get 17-18s but I get 22s in the morning when I just wake up
Five months after you replied to this thread, haha. I'm having these problems too, but I guess you just need to practice more to get faster. I stuck at 20 in a point, and I had to just practiced lots to overcome the barrier. (I don't cube that much now, but I've been in the same situation, and I think this situation is normal.)
 

Zain_A24

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Help averaging constient sub-20? when im warmed up iget 17-18s but get 22s in the morning when i just wake up
Five months after you replied to this thread, haha. I'm having these problems too, but I guess you just need to practice more to get faster. I stuck at 20 in a point, and I had to just practiced lots to overcome the barrier. (I don't cube that much now, but I've been in the same situation, and I think this situation is normal.)
Having peaks and troughs in your times is perfectly normal, and happens with almost every cuber to a certain degree. What matters more is what is causing the difference in times between your first solve of the day and being fully warmed up, and what your actions will be to improve your times further. A lot of this is from practise. You won't see cubers going to comps doing their first 5 solves of the day (I haven't attending any comps to know that but there may be some people - you know who you are ;))

Are there any specific areas of weakness in your solves. Doing split times for each phase (4 for CFOP) would help to see where the difference is coming from, it certainly helped me a lot during my 3x3 tracking an progress, realising that my cross inspection and times were incredibly inconsistent, resulting in ineffective lookahead to first pair and a lack of "momentum" in solves.

Every cuber has their own strengths and weaknesses. It's about spotting the weaknesses and targeting them until they are no longer a weakness. Hope this helps.
 

DukeCubes

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I am a cuber that averages around 22 seconds and am looking to reach the mark of sub 20. I have a lot of good F2L algorithms but I cannot seem to get sub 20, so I think I need to work on my cross to F2L efficiency. Any tips?
 

SirCuberCat

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just wondering, is forcing keyhole on an f2l slot faster than a normal algorithm? Because now i'me trying to make use of multislotting and etc
 
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1. Solve Cross on Bottom

2. Be able to solve the cross in under 8 moves every time

3. Plan out your entire cross in inspection. This may be hard at first so I would recommend not using WCA inspection

4. Be able to solve your cross blindfolded every time, except instead look at your first f2l pair whilst solving the cross.

5. Make sure that in 95% of f2l pairs you never rotate twice. If there's an f2l case where you consistently rotate twice, learn a better alg for it.

6. NEVER do a y2 rotation

7. Insert your first f2l pairs in the back slots if possible. The next best thing to do is to fill up the two slots on the left. Don't do unnecessary rotations to do this

8. Make sure every basic f2l pair solution is in muscle memory and be able to solve them blindfolded

9. Look at different f2l pairs while solving your current f2l pair

10. Be able to solve every f2l case in 8 moves or less, except a few cases where the pieces are in different layers or are matched up incorrectly which may require 11 moves.

11. Have good OLL fingertricks. Be able to execute every OLL alg you know in under 2 seconds

12. Use good OLL fingertricke. I would recommend watching Feliks' video on Cubeskills about his OLL fingertricks

13. Never rotate in the last layer. Use U moves to line up your case instead

14. Learn full PLL. It's not required to learn full OLL at this point. It's not even required to know full PLL to be sub 20 but I would recommend it.

15. Have good PLL fingertricks. Be able to execute every PLL in under 2 seconds. Feliks has a good video on PLL as well

16. Be able to predict your AUF for PLL.

EDIT: Not all of these tips need to be applied to be sub 20, but every one will make you faster.
 

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5. Make sure that in 95% of f2l pairs you never rotate twice. If there's an f2l case where you consistently rotate twice, learn a better alg for it.

6. NEVER do a y2 rotation


11. Have good OLL fingertricks. Be able to execute every OLL alg you know in under 2 seconds

12. Use good OLL fingertricke. I would recommend watching Feliks' video on Cubeskills about his OLL fingertricks

You can tell what he thinks is important by how many times he repeats it :p



Seriously though, amazing advice by Micah. Everything he said I agreed with
 

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One thing that helped me get sub 20 is doing big cubes because it helped with my lookahead
I have always been more serious with big cubes than 3x3 ever since I got my first 6x6 and 7x7 back in June of 2018 (I started in April 2018), and I think that has helped me a lot with my lookahead. It's much harder to lookahead on big cubes than 3x3 since there are so many pieces and such so when I did 3x3 it felt much easier to look ahead to just F2L pairs instead of all of those centers on 5-7. I would also learn how to do intuitive F2L along with using some algs for bad cases since it makes your solves smoother and eventually you can influence other F2L pairs and OLL once you get faster.
 
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Help averaging constient sub-20? when im warmed up iget 17-18s but get 22s in the morning when i just wake up
When approaching sub 20, lookahead is not really a big deal at those stages, improving your F2L efficiency definitely helps, since you turn less, which makes less time for F2L and also, overtime you should generate more efficient F2L algs during solves due to experience. Learn 2LLL, I know maybe some people will say that 2LLL is not necessary during sub 20, but it definitely chops off a couple of second, maybe 3 or 2 second, but still, those are a huge improvement and step towards sub 20, it may even give you a head start when becoming sub-15.

tl;dr improve F2L efficiency and learn 2LLL, it definitely helps.
 
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