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How to be sub 20

GenTheThief

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https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/how-to-get-faster-using-the-fridrich-cfop-method.6085/
There's literally a how to be sub-20 thread somewhere but I don't feel like finding it right now.
E: found it
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/how-to-be-sub-20.14009/

I guess splits could be like this:
Cross:2
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
Edge OLL:2
Corner OLL:2
PLL:2

Make sure to drill your LL algs; just repeat them over and over so you can execute them in around 1.5 sec. It looks like they could use some work if you're done with F2L at 15 but finish ten seconds later.

Also just do a ton of solves.
 

Ender_Mage14

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https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/how-to-get-faster-using-the-fridrich-cfop-method.6085/
There's literally a how to be sub-20 thread somewhere but I don't feel like finding it right now.
E: found it
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/how-to-be-sub-20.14009/

I guess splits could be like this:
Cross:2
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
F2L pair: 2.25
Edge OLL:2
Corner OLL:2
PLL:2

Make sure to drill your LL algs; just repeat them over and over so you can execute them in around 1.5 sec. It looks like they could use some work if you're done with F2L at 15 but finish ten seconds later.

Also just do a ton of solves.
Oh. Didn't know there was a sub-20 thread... thanks anyway.
 

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take you long to learn how to do ur cross blindfolded? i could place 3 parts but even when looking i cant track the 4th piece ! :(
I would suggest doing untimed solves with unlimited inspection and try to picture out the whole cross and what moves will do what to the 4th piece:)
 

Jozo_Berk

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Does anyone have a list of alternate pll algs because some of them are really not finger trick friendly (e.g. all the g perms)
 

Jozo_Berk

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I use Badmephisto's PLL + OLL (didnt learn even half)
I didnt like F for PLL ([R' U2 R' d'] [R' F'] [R2 U' R' U] [R' F R U' F])
So I looked through Cube Wiki, and found " R' U R U' R2 F' U' F U x R U R' U' R2 B' " Quite nice alg :D and pretty damm nice flow. So, really changing alg helps ..
If you're any good at T perm you can try this one - R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' U R
 

Y Perm

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how do i get sub 20 i have good Look Ahead My OLL And PLL algorithms are fast but why am i not sub 20?
 

Hunar

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SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AHEAD is much more important than GET GOOD ALGS, in my opinion. Case in point: it's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.
Please dont slow down see i am a sub 20 i know how to be sub 20. First i learnt advanced f2l tricks that is the MOST helpful. Brody the cuber has awsm videos on it. The other thing is plan the cross in your head and on very easy crosses try planning first pair too. Look ahead is an important thing but slow down will make you a bad habit, believe me. You should try your best and keep in mind during EVERY SOLVE that you shoul have no pauses during the solve. Insert your f2l pair but do not look at your pair look somewhere else. Hope it helps?
 
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i can do pll and oll in under 1 second and i never pause
You can do OLL and PLL sub-1 with not a single pause? So you can finish last layer in under 2 seconds, and you are asking for advice on how to get sub-20. That means your F2L is over 18 seconds? Yeah, that's what you need to work on...
 

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You can do OLL and PLL sub-1 with not a single pause? So you can finish last layer in under 2 seconds, and you are asking for advice on how to get sub-20. That means your F2L is over 18 seconds? Yeah, that's what you need to work on...
okay ill try and improve my f2l
 

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A practice technique I used that helped me get sub-20 is to ‘recite’ the moves to solve your cross, and visualize how your hands will finger trick those moves.
Then, I went on cstimer and did a bunch of crosses, blindfolded (or in my case just closing my eyes lol).
You crosses will be surely be sub-3, maybe even faster (I believe I get ~2.2 on avg)
Now that you do not have to use your energy on the cross, you can try to see what you’ll do for your F2L Pairs while you do your cross. And if it’s an easy cross you can even plan you first pair too or X-cross, but only when it’s easy.
 
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Gan boi

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SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AHEAD is much more important than GET GOOD ALGS, in my opinion. Case in point: it's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.
Actually, I agree. I do not have full oll and my PB for 3x3 is 22.78
 
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