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How to be sub 20

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SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AHEAD is much more important than GET GOOD ALGS, in my opinion. Case in point: it's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.
Please dont slow down see i am a sub 20 i know how to be sub 20. First i learnt advanced f2l tricks that is the MOST helpful. Brody the cuber has awsm videos on it. The other thing is plan the cross in your head and on very easy crosses try planning first pair too. Look ahead is an important thing but slow down will make you a bad habit, believe me. You should try your best and keep in mind during EVERY SOLVE that you shoul have no pauses during the solve. Insert your f2l pair but do not look at your pair look somewhere else. Hope it helps?
 
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i can do pll and oll in under 1 second and i never pause
You can do OLL and PLL sub-1 with not a single pause? So you can finish last layer in under 2 seconds, and you are asking for advice on how to get sub-20. That means your F2L is over 18 seconds? Yeah, that's what you need to work on...
 
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You can do OLL and PLL sub-1 with not a single pause? So you can finish last layer in under 2 seconds, and you are asking for advice on how to get sub-20. That means your F2L is over 18 seconds? Yeah, that's what you need to work on...
okay ill try and improve my f2l
 
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A practice technique I used that helped me get sub-20 is to ‘recite’ the moves to solve your cross, and visualize how your hands will finger trick those moves.
Then, I went on cstimer and did a bunch of crosses, blindfolded (or in my case just closing my eyes lol).
You crosses will be surely be sub-3, maybe even faster (I believe I get ~2.2 on avg)
Now that you do not have to use your energy on the cross, you can try to see what you’ll do for your F2L Pairs while you do your cross. And if it’s an easy cross you can even plan you first pair too or X-cross, but only when it’s easy.
 
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SLOW DOWN AND LOOK AHEAD is much more important than GET GOOD ALGS, in my opinion. Case in point: it's well within the realm of possibility to reach sub-20 without knowing full OLL.
Actually, I agree. I do not have full oll and my PB for 3x3 is 22.78
 
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So i'm currently getting 25 second solves on average and my pb is 16.35. I need some tips to get sub-20 or at least better than 25.
Thanks!
 
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So i'm currently getting 25 second solves on average and my pb is 16.35. I need some tips to get sub-20 or at least better than 25.
Thanks!
I'm going to be brutally honest for a second here. We get the I'm x speed how do I become y speed waaaaaaaaay too often and it's a really annoying question if you don't provide any information. You could also probably find any answers we'd give you anywhere else. There's a lot of good resources out there.
If you still don't know what to do next, fine feel free to ask a question and I'll happely answer to the best of my knowledge.

(I'm going to make examples from my own solving)
Example of a bad question: "I'm currently almost sub-14, how do I become sub-12????" No one knows anything, what sets do I know I haven't provided any information on what I can improve one

Example of a somewhat decent question: "Hey I'm currently averaging a little over 14 seconds with pure CFOP (full OLL and PLL) and am dual color neutral (which I don't intend to change). My splits are give or take 1.5/8/1.75/2.75,what do you guys think I should work on"

A good question is combining the above question and providing a video of an ao5 or some example solves so people can get some actual footage that provides waaaay better information on how you can improve.

Quickly editing this in: I'm not trying to discourage you from asking questions, but encourage you to go exploring a bit first. Findig stuff on your own also makes you retain things better. Don't take this information in a bad way, but see it as opportunity to learn.
 
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Hey guys, I've been cubing since almost a year now, and I'm looking to get sub-20. I currently average around 25 seconds and I've learnt full PLL and on the verge of learning full OLL (still have like a few cases to learn). I don't know what I'm supposed to do to decrease my times, so I'm searching for guidance from greater cubers. I have this checklist of things I want to do on my road to sub-20 and I was wondering if you could give some feedback on it!

ROAD TO SUB 20

  1. L̶e̶a̶r̶n̶ ̶f̶u̶l̶l̶ ̶P̶L̶L̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶m̶u̶s̶c̶l̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶g̶e̶r̶t̶r̶i̶c̶k̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶
  2. Learn full OLL and be familiar with all the cases(almost done)
  3. Learn more F2L algorithms for different slots and improve look ahead(to improve)
  4. Practice planning first F2L pair during inspection
  5. Learn full COLL(40 algorithms)
  6. Learn Winter Variation(27 algorithms)

Of course, I will try to improve my lookahead throughout the road, it's just that I find difficult finding the pieces. I watched this video of cyotheking talking about F2L lookahead and it recommanded doing slow solves for a week, so I think I'm going to do that soon. Thanks for anyone trying to help me, and have a good day!
 
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the number one thing you should try and do is just work on efficiency. It is tough to get sub 20 when you are averaging 100 moves or so per solve so watch lazer monkey's video on f21 cases done efficiently. You also have to learn how to drill ll algs. I would try and get most plls sub 2, and all of them sub 2.5. Don't worry so much about full oll, and focus on getting sub 1 execution on all the cross cases, and implement all the easy one like the t cases. Besides the one with headlights in the front this should be easy. combining that with the time it takes you to get to a cross case, and pll, your ll should be sub 7. That leaves you with around 12-13 seconds for cross and f21. plan cross in inspection, and solve f21 efficiently and you are set. hopefully that helps.
 
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