Easy / Lucky / Hard / Weird scrambles Thread

AvGalen said:
Third attempt: Easy beginning, create edge-skeleton, fail like the first (but much shorter)
Tripple X-Cross: R' L' F' B'
Flip edges: D F L2 F' L2 D' L

Time is up. No sub 20, but a 24 is OK :). I will continue for the rest of the hour.
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I hate to leave a cube unsolved:
Triple X-Cross: R' L' F' B'
Flip edges: D F . L2 F' L2 D' L
insert at .: B U' R2 U B' L2 B U' R2 U B' L2

L2's cancel. 21 moves. (I didn't really look very hard for a good insertion, either - there's a good chance there might be a better one somewhere.)

The twist 2 corners alg is awfully useful in fewest moves sometimes, and it's pretty easy to remember - you should learn it!
 
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Fourth attemp: Easy beginning, play around with 2x2 blocks Heise-style and "accidently" leave a corner-3-cycle
I say accidently because I don't know Heise so I have no system for this. I was just trying to see how I could move the blocks without breaking them and found this after 20 minutes (30 in total). It took me another 10 to recreate it and now I am going to shut up and try to find an insertion. I should have sufficient time. I only have 11 moves where I can insert it with 2 different positions at the beginning. Sub 20 IS coming
Tripple X-Cross: R' L' F' B'
All but 3 corners: B D2 F', D2 B', D F D', L
 
I just checked, but insertions are wrong! NOOOOO

I am an idiot. The first insertion should be B U B' D B U' B' D'
The second insertion should be B' D' F2 D B D' F2 D

Everything went so nice, untill I got stressed during the insertions. So I failed at the 10 minute AND the 60 minute mark, but I got a new (lucky) PB of 18 anyway.

Entire solution:
Tripple X-Cross: R' L' F' B'
All but 3 corners with Heise blocks and luck: B * D2 F', D2 B', D F D', L
Insert corner 3-cycle at the * : B' D' F2 D B D' F2 D

Total solution (18): R' L' F' B' D' F2 D B D' F2 D' F' D2 B' D F D' L
15 was optimal: D' B2 R2 D2 L F R' B' R U2 L' U2 D' R U2 (15f*)
After R' optimal was still 15 (starting with L' would also still be 15 optimal)
After R' L' optimal was 14
After R' L' F' optimal was 13 (starting with R' L' F' would also be 13 optimal)
After R' L' F' B' optimal was 13
After R' L' F' B' D' optimal was 13 and that's what I needed

This was stressfull!

And thanks for the 2-corner-twist Mike. I have seen it a couple of times before and if I had known it during the Polish Open 2007 I would have been REALLY happy (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/1549)
 
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I think at was more fun for you then it was for me. I suck at corner insertions and felt really stressed because of the 1 hour time limit. I also felt bad because my best insertion only cancelled 1 move, but when I found out that I pretty much solved the last part optimally I was much happier.

And when I thought about the fact that I just did a solve in 18 moves....Sometimes you get a scramble where Cube Explorer can't even solve it in 18 moves ;)

And I would like to see how fast people can be with the 24 move solution (with the right rotations/finger tricks naturally. That would actually be a "normal" solution for a speedsolve. I made the cross, did the pairs, did OLL and PLL. Nothing lucky about that solve right?
 
you thought that scramble was good?

jnetcube just gave me this about 5 minutes ago.

L2 D L2 B D F R2 F L2 U' B R' L2 U2 B2 L2 D2 B L2 R2 B2 U' L' F' U

2 moves = cross and 1 c/e paired up already :-\
 
Todd said:
L2 D L2 B D F R2 F L2 U' B R' L2 U2 B2 L2 D2 B L2 R2 B2 U' L' F' U
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x2 M'U2x'
UR'U2'R2U2'R'URU'R'
L'ULd2FR'F'R
y'U'R'U2RUR'U'RU'R'U'R
31 move speedsolve. :)

Why didn't I time this? (Well, I know why; because I don't have a Stackmat. Still...)
EDIT: First timed execution was 6.04. Except I did y'U2'LF'L'Fy' at the end of line 3.

But really, (cross+formed pair) in 2 moves does not compare to (triple X-cross) in 2 moves.
 
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Todd said:
you thought that scramble was good?

jnetcube just gave me this about 5 minutes ago.

L2 D L2 B D F R2 F L2 U' B R' L2 U2 B2 L2 D2 B L2 R2 B2 U' L' F' U

2 moves = cross and 1 c/e paired up already :-\
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Sure, 2 moves (3 actually) for cross and 1 pair paired up is much better than 4 moves for cross and 3 pairs already inserted :confused:

And you are probably right Mike, but the last time I did a PB (22) it was so great because the insertion cancelled lots of moves, giving me 17 moves optimally at the end. Maybe others can get better results on that scramble than I did. Mostly I am good at FMC because of my short beginnings, but in this case everyone got that short beginning so I was at a disadvantage ;) The best part for me was doing the Heise-blocks without having any idea how Heise actually works
 
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AvGalen said:
The best part for me was doing the Heise-blocks without having any idea how Heise actually works
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It's interesting this helped you. I have found that many of my best ever fewest moves attempts have been right after playing with attempts at Heise solves. And I would say that I really pretty much don't have any idea how Heise actually works either. It's just that somehow thinking in a manner related to the Heise approach seems to help put me in the right frame of mind to do fewest moves.
 
This was the first time ever I really played with multiple 2x2 blocks. I was amazed by the freedom you still have. It didn't seem hard to keep the blocks intact while I was playing with the unsolved pieces at the same time.

I consider this solve so lucky that I feel bad about claiming 1st place on http://www.speedcubing.com/records/recs_stats_fm.html. However, I am very tempted. The beginning of this solve was obviously very lucky, but I had to work very hard to get the last 9 pieces oriented and permuted in 14 moves and the solve included a lot of FMC tricks (regular cancellation, Heise, Insertion on a skeleton and a cancellation on the insertion)

I will keep my old PB for now because I feel better about that solve.
 
B F' L R2 D2 U2 B2 F' L2 R' D L2 R2 B F' D2 U2 F L2 R' D' R U' B' U'

Hah, another nice one.

This was a sub-15 OH solve. Unfortunately, when I reached for the spacebar 30cm away, I missed it, and on the second hit got 15.00. :mad:
My solve:
z UR'U'R
zL'UL'yR
R2U'R2U'R2U2'R2
U'FR'F'R
d'L'U'LU2L'U'L
U'y'x'RU'Ru2'L'ULu2'R2

Arnaud, I'm giving you 15 minutes for sub-25. ;)
 
Can I add yet another one to your queue?

15.53 (three solves later :eek:):
R2 D' U2 L' B' F R' F2 L' B F L' B' L2 R2 F2 R' D2 U' L R2 B' L R B2

y'x' U'RU2'R2 x'UlU'l'
L'ULdLUL'
yL'U2L
y'RU2'R'U'RU2'R'U'RU2'R'
dlU'Ru2'L'ULu2'R2
 
A Very Easy 3x3 Scramble

U L B' L2 R' B' F2 D2 U2 R D B F2 R2 B F' D2 R' B' L' R2 B2 F2 D2 B'
I got 9.02 and with it.
This scramble was from CCT.
Up - White
Front - Green

My Solution:
Cross+2 Pairs: x2 D R' U L U' L F2
3rd Pair: y U R U R'
4th Pair: U2 R' U2 R U' R' U R
OLL: U2 F' L' U' L U L' U' L U F
PLL: y' U' R U2' R' U2 R B' R' U' R U l U R2' F
 
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