Easy / Lucky / Hard / Weird scrambles Thread

[Olivér Perge]

Just got this from CCT, (optimal scramble this time) whilst racing blake4512

F2 R2 U2 R U' F U

I got 1.34 non lucky

Spoiler

z2 U' R' U R' F2 R2 U2

Forced OLL skip, normally I would do y R U R', but I saw I could force the OLL skip. I looked ahead in inspection and saw I had a checker pattern PBL.

Why is the phrase "non lucky" thrown around so wrongly...?

If you're putting this in the easy scrambles thread then it really is not non-lucky. Maybe "full step" (even though it wasn't) but certainly not "non lucky".

In my opinion, if he was really forcing OLL and really did see that XLL coming, I assume it was non lucky. The word lucky means skipping a step. Therefor, as a full step solve it was not lucky just really easy.

Top 2x2x2 cubers are doing sub-2 solves with the whole solution seen during inspection all the time. For most of them an unexpected LL skip is slower then a full step CLL solve, seen during inspection. Ironically in those cases the LL skip solve is called lucky.

 

[miniGOINGS]

In my opinion, if he was really forcing OLL and really did see that XLL coming, I assume it was non lucky. The word lucky means skipping a step. Therefor, as a full step solve it was not lucky just really easy.

Top 2x2x2 cubers are doing sub-2 solves with the whole solution seen during inspection all the time. For most of them an unexpected LL skip is slower then a full step CLL solve, seen during inspection. Ironically in those cases the LL skip solve is called lucky.

Well put. So lucky is something unexpected that happened to the solvers advantage?

 

[Toad]

Hmmm I'm never sure whether that's a good definition for it really. I think "non lucky" and "full step" are very different things but I guess that's just the accepted definition now...

 

[Olivér Perge]

Well put. So lucky is something unexpected that happened to the solvers advantage?

In my opinion, yes. But again it's hard to find the barrier beetwen lucky and easy.

Of course a skip is very lucky but compare two 3x3x3 last cases: 6 move T OLL and U perm, or 4 edge only OLL (or basically any slow or long OLL) with E permutation per say. Both of them are full step, but you still consider the first one luckier. (The difference for me is like 2 seconds which is raughly big.)

 

[miniGOINGS]

Well put. So lucky is something unexpected that happened to the solvers advantage?

In my opinion, yes. But again it's hard to find the barrier beetwen lucky and easy.

Of course a skip is very lucky but compare two 3x3x3 last cases: 6 move T OLL and U perm, or 4 edge only OLL (or basically any slow or long OLL) with E permutation per say. Both of them are full step, but you still consider the first one luckier. (The difference for me is like 2 seconds which is raughly big.)

Ok, makes sense.

 

[nlCuber22]

F' U' F2 U F2 U' F
lol.

 

[Faz]

This 7x7 scramble was hilarious: 2U2 2B' R U2 2B' 3F' 3R F L2 2D' 2L' U' 2B' 3F2 2F2 R2 U2 2B2 B' 3U' B' 2U' 3L' F U2 2L2 B2 R 2U2 3U 2F' 2B B U2 3U 3L 2L' D2 2U' 3U' 3F2 L2 B2 2F' 3U R2 3F2 U 3F U' B2 D2 2L 3F2 3L' 2F' 2D' 2B2 D2 F L 2U' D' 2D2 2F' L 2D 2B2 2R' 3L 2D 2L 2R' 2U2 R 2F 3R L2 B' 2L2 3R F2 2R 3F' 3L2 D' 3L' U2 2F2 D' 2U' 3L 3R' 2D 3L'

Haha, that is awesome.

 

[Raffael]

3x3, cross on D
L U B U R' U' F U' B L' D' L U F2 D' L' F D2 R' B' D R D' R B

5 moves x-cross:
U' L U' L D2

 

[Deleted member 4527]

(1,-6) (-4,2) (6,0) (-3,-6) (1,-2) (-3,-3) (0,2) (0,3) (3,0) (3,1) (6,5) (0,-4) (6,-1) (-4,-6) (2,0) (-2,-6)

got it from cubemania. 7.84

 

[MTGjumper]

(1,-6) (-4,2) (6,0) (-3,-6) (1,-2) (-3,-3) (0,2) (0,3) (3,0) (3,1) (6,5) (0,-4) (6,-1) (-4,-6) (2,0) (-2,-6)

got it from cubemania. 7.84

Solution?

 

[Deleted member 4527]

(1,-6) (-4,2) (6,0) (-3,-6) (1,-2) (-3,-3) (0,2) (0,3) (3,0) (3,1) (6,5) (0,-4) (6,-1) (-4,-6) (2,0) (-2,-6)

got it from cubemania. 7.84

Solution?

sorry my bad wrong scramble

here
(0, -6)(3, 3)(1, -2)(0, 2)(2, 4)(6, -2)(-2, -2)(2, -6)(0, 4)(-2, -4)(4, 4)(4, -6)(0, -4)(2, -4)(2, 4)(-2, 4)

Spoiler

OLL skip
and I hate adj-opp

 

[MTGjumper]

Then force adj-adj instead.

 

[richardzhang]

Easiest floppy cube scramble ever:
L2 U2 R2 L2 D2 L2 U2 R2 L2 D2
I srsly got this off qqtimer

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

Pyra: U R' U' R' U R' U' R r' b u

2.25

 

[Kian]

R2 L B F2 U' B D' F B' D2 U2 R' B' F2 U2 R D2 R2 B' R' U2 D' L' U' B

Wow. 2x cross was 6 moves.

From qqtimer.

 

[rubiks@s]

2x2
U' F R' U F' U F U2 R2

 

[Raffael]

3x3, cross on D
L2 U2 R B' U2 L2 D2 L B' U L F' R2 B R F2 R B D' F2 D' R' B2 L B'

extremely easy:
cross: y2 B' L F R' (4)
1st: d R' U2 R (4)
2nd: L' U2 L (3)
3rd: y U L' U2 L U L' U' L (8)
4th: y R U R' y U2 L' U L (7)
OLL: f R U R' U' f (6)
PLL: g-perm (12)

44 moves HTM.

 

[MTGjumper]

R' F2 D U B2 F L B' R2 D2 L2 R' U2 L' D' U' L' B2 F D' U2 F' U F' D'

y L' R' F R2 D

 

[rubiks@s]

3x3:
U F2 U2 R L D F2 D' B' R L2 F D R' U R L2 D2 R' L U' D2 R D2 F
easy cross.

3x3:
D' R2 B L B F2 L D L R2 D' U' B2 D' U' L' R2 D2 F2 R D U F2 R D2
another easy cross

3x3:
B' U D L' R B2 L F2 D U' F2 D2 B' R U2 R F' R2 D U' L2 D U' B R'
another easy cross on D
hahaha

 

[Evan Liu]

Cross on U

U2 L U2 L' B' U R' D' L2 D B' R2 U' F2 U F' B' L2 D B2 U F2 L2 R B