Changes to the WCA event list.

[CubeLite]

They make a good point with the spectator friendly problem

 

[Tabe]

note that regulations 4g1a and 4a1 apply to mega, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7

That literally makes my point - those puzzles are so hard to scramble accurately that they changed the rules to allow them to be scrambled incorrectly. Clock is nowhere near that.

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

That literally makes my point - those puzzles are so hard to scramble accurately that they changed the rules to allow them to be scrambled incorrectly. Clock is nowhere near that.

Clock is a much faster event than 5x5, 6x6, 7x7 or megaminx

 

[Tabe]

Clock is a much faster event than 5x5, 6x6, 7x7 or megaminx

Which has nothing to do with whether it's harder to scramble than those four events. And, even if it did, CLOCK ISN'T HARD TO SCRAMBLE.

 

[Martyt7777]

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That literally makes my point - those puzzles are so hard to scramble accurately that they changed the rules to allow them to be scrambled incorrectly. Clock is nowhere near that.

yes but they don't need to be scrambled accurately so there will basically be no issues with misscrambles

 

[mdcuber9]

So how fast do yall think clock will get before its removed, and how fast will FTO get by the end of next year?

 

[Chris Choi]

These board members are idiots for removing such a popular event

nah they're based. I actually respect the WCA board so much more now for having the balls to remove such a popular event. i support them, clock never belonged

 

[Cubing_Grandson]

If it being removed from the wca hampshire this weekend will be the last time i compete in clock cuz there is no point now

I only just saw this forum but I am also at Hampshire right now! Clock is still there luckily

 

[Fred]

nah they're based. I actually respect the WCA board so much more now for having the balls to remove such a popular event. i support them, clock never belonged

Nobody likes a sore winner. You also earned yourself very few favors by going into various event discord servers and telling them that their event(s) should be removed. Just enjoy your W without putting down others.

 

[notjamestack]

Some good points in this video:

 

[Martyt7777]

 

[Puzzle Maniac]

Removing Clock is NOT Tung Tung Tung Sacool

 

[CrossPetrus]

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Lowkey I’d do that if I could.

 

[qwr]

I don't do clock at all so I have no horse in this race, but I'm still kinda bothered by the rule change a while ago letting clock pins change in a scramble. That's like if you could start your 3x3 scramble in the most favorable cube orientation. I also agree that the time to remove it should've been like ten years ago when interest was a lot lower, around when this cube roll video was made

 

[Tabe]

yes but they don't need to be scrambled accurately so there will basically be no issues with misscrambles

Exactly. They are so hard to scramble that they rewrote the rules to accommodate them. But with clock? "Man, that is just SO HARD to scramble". Besides the fact that it's not hard to scramble clock, it's being punished for being "hard to scramble" but others are not.

 

[....]

Exactly. They are so hard to scramble that they rewrote the rules to accommodate them. But with clock? "Man, that is just SO HARD to scramble". Besides the fact that it's not hard to scramble clock, it's being punished for being "hard to scramble" but others are not.

they're not even that hard to scramble, they just take more time. i just tried scrambling a 7x7 right now (generated from cstimer btw), it took me 38 seconds, and it's pretty sufficiently scrambled. additionally i would argue it's more hectic to scramble rounds for smaller events such as 2x2 and pyra, since solves are comparatively short and more people participate per round, meaning that in my experience, even with 2 or 3 scramblers, everyone is constantly scrambling and new cubes still keep coming in. whereas in the handful of times i had to scramble big cubes, i was waiting half the time (though i do understand this might just be because i scramble faster).

all said, imo none of the events right now are even remotely hard to scramble; i legit don't understand why misscrambles exist in the first place. if they did mention difficult scrambling as a reason to remove clock, i would think that's absurd

 

[Martyt7777]

 

[TimoChristianCuber]

nah they're based. I actually respect the WCA board so much more now for having the balls to remove such a popular event. i support them, clock never belonged

maybe you're the fromer fto wb holder are something lol

 

[Martyt7777]

maybe you're the fromer fto wb holder are something lol

What?