# 3x3 With Feet Getting Removed

#### xyzzy

##### Member
I feel like people's impressions of "solving a Rubik's Cube with feet" might be more like literally solving a cube with feet, versus what we actually do, which is solving a cube with feet and the floor. It sounds very impressive to normal people until they watch a video of it and get disappointed that people are making use of the surface.

(Then again, what do I know, I have a sample size of 1.)

#### Alejandro82

##### Member
This is so stupid. Of course it’s not gonna get removed. The only reason we’re discussing this is because Bob Burton has an irrational fear of feet.
He can’t touch scorecards for 3x3 WF because someone’s feet touched a cube, and that cube might’ve touched a scorecard… He even forbids feet solvers from using the timers/mats at the competitions he delegates … I bet we would be at 30% if he didn’t actively try to suppress feet solving as a delegate and board member. I’m all for mentally challenged people to vote, but this has been a huge waste of time for the wca. Feet are not unsanitary, it’s only in your head.

And regarding media coverage … wca will be less known if feet is removed, because the media can’t show this amazing talent anymore. Solving with hands is the same thing over and over and the media will get bored with that.
Here’s a comment from Bob Burton regarding feet:

- I refuse to hold it at any competition I organize because it repulses me.
- For Worlds last year, we actually ordered separate timers for the 3x3 feet event and sold them after the event was finished.
- I think solving with feet is disgusting. For Worlds last year, I refused to touch the scorecards for the 3x3 feet event because the feet cubes touched them also. We had hand sanitizer at the scrambling table for accidental contact with feet cubes.
- Look at the registration costs for 3x3 with feet at US Nationals this year. If it were up to me, they'd be even higher.
- We have even joked about having registration costs for feet starting at $100 and reducing by$1 per day until 8 spots filled. After that, the event would be closed.
- Ew.

#### Mike Hughey

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
He said he refused to hold feet for any comp that he organizes; he didn't say he refused to hold feet for any comp he delegates. But certainly he's dragged kicking and screaming when he has to delegate one. I assume Meadowlands happened because of the possibility of a WR from Daniel Rose-Levine (which happened!).

#### Tabe

##### Member
We can go back and forth on whether feet have more/fewer germs than hands and whether they really are relatively unsanitary in comparison.

What *IS* indisputable, and what most people are probably referring to when they say "unsanitary" or "unhygienic" is that feet smell worse than hands. Not all feet, not everyone's, and so on, but some.

#### One Wheel

##### Member
We can go back and forth on whether feet have more/fewer germs than hands and whether they really are relatively unsanitary in comparison.

What *IS* indisputable, and what most people are probably referring to when they say "unsanitary" or "unhygienic" is that feet smell worse than hands. Not all feet, not everyone's, and so on, but some.
If somebody came to compete with hands dripping with raw sewage they would be required to go to the restroom and wash them (and likely their cube) before being allowed to compete. Why should Feet be any different in that regard? If your feet stink, you need to wash them.

#### Tabe

##### Member
If somebody came to compete with hands dripping with raw sewage they would be required to go to the restroom and wash them (and likely their cube) before being allowed to compete. Why should Feet be any different in that regard? If your feet stink, you need to wash them.
I don't disagree.

#### WillyTheWizard

##### Member
I can’t recommend that course of action.
I would love to see how you would get access to sewage water and your clickbait thumbnail. Delegates would get so mad tho...

#### One Wheel

##### Member
I would love to see how you would get access to sewage water and your clickbait thumbnail. Delegates would get so mad tho...
I’m not sure what you mean by clickbait thumbnail, but I have ample access to non-human sewage. I like to think of it more as thoroughly mashed-up grass clippings, though.

#### Pyjam

go ask 100 random people on the street what they think about solving rubik's cubes with feet and present us the results
That's like saying: Eating frogs with the hands is weirdos.
Go ask 100 random people on the street what they think about solving rubik's cubes during hours everyday.

#### Sajwo

##### Member
That's like saying: Eating frogs with the hands is weirdos.
Go ask 100 random people on the street what they think about solving rubik's cubes during hours everyday.
for sure it's not as retarded as solving it with your feet

#### Underwatercuber

##### Member
This is so stupid. Of course it’s not gonna get removed. The only reason we’re discussing this is because Bob Burton has an irrational fear of feet.
He can’t touch scorecards for 3x3 WF because someone’s feet touched a cube, and that cube might’ve touched a scorecard… He even forbids feet solvers from using the timers/mats at the competitions he delegates … I bet we would be at 30% if he didn’t actively try to suppress feet solving as a delegate and board member. I’m all for mentally challenged people to vote, but this has been a huge waste of time for the wca. Feet are not unsanitary, it’s only in your head.

And regarding media coverage … wca will be less known if feet is removed, because the media can’t show this amazing talent anymore. Solving with hands is the same thing over and over and the media will get bored with that.
Here’s a comment from Bob Burton regarding feet:
Tfw one of the selling points of keeping feet is that if you don’t like it you don’t have to participate in it or organize/delegate comps with it but instead you counter the argument as well as disrespect someone’s choices and then proceed to call them mentally challenged for it.

Nice