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Am I the only person who hates the 9 move A perm? It's one of my least favorite PLLs and I might switch algs because I just can't stand it. I'd take a G perm any day over an A perm. It's short, and it's probably faster than I think, but I'm using an overly loose Zhanchi and I can't count how many times I've popped A perms.

E perms are awful. I guess I hate all the CPLLs. Unless you count H perms.

I don't like A perms either and probably prefer G perms, but I don't hate them.
 
Am I the only person who hates the 9 move A perm? It's one of my least favorite PLLs and I might switch algs because I just can't stand it. I'd take a G perm any day over an A perm. It's short, and it's probably faster than I think, but I'm using an overly loose Zhanchi and I can't count how many times I've popped A perms.

E perms are awful. I guess I hate all the CPLLs. Unless you count H perms.

You're not the only one. I especially hate the R2 D2 one. Lockups lockups and more lockups. The doubleflick D2 doesn't work out for me, and single flicks aren't any better. At least the other A perm isn't that bad.

I'm currently using wrist turns for the D2 in the R2D2 A perm.
 
Am I the only person who hates the 9 move A perm? It's one of my least favorite PLLs and I might switch algs because I just can't stand it.

E perms are awful. I guess I hate all the CPLLs. Unless you count H perms.
I hate all CPLLs, including H perms, except E perms :p
I found R' D' R U2 R' D R U' R' D' R U' R' D R yesterday on algdb.net, and I quite like it, but it is very long compared to normal A perms. I also use R U R' F' r U R' U' r' F R2 U' R' for one AUF (the same one people use r U r' U' r' F r2 U' r' U' r U r' F' U for). I don't know any good algs for Ab though.
 
You're not the only one. I especially hate the R2 D2 one. Lockups lockups and more lockups. The doubleflick D2 doesn't work out for me, and single flicks aren't any better. At least the other A perm isn't that bad.

I'm currently using wrist turns for the D2 in the R2D2 A perm.

You can try doing the mirror of the R' U R' one, he D2's become U2's the only downside is that instead of the first moving being a wide l' its x and R at the same time.
 
Wut. How do you hate H perms?
Because I can't do M2'. I do it as R' [r M'], which is great for U perms but not H/Z perms. For H/Z perms I either do that or M' M', both of which aren't very fast. My H/Z perms are still faster than many of my other PLLs but I can't get a decent TPS on them.
(E: and I only like E perms when I execute them well)
 
Because I can't do M2'. I do it as R' [r M'], which is great for U perms but not H/Z perms. For H/Z perms I either do that or M' M', both of which aren't very fast. My H/Z perms are still faster than many of my other PLLs but I can't get a decent TPS on them.
(E: and I only like E perms when I execute them well)

...why can't you do M2'? Ring finger, then middle finger? And some people use pinkys?
 
...why can't you do M2'? Ring finger, then middle finger? And some people use pinkys?
I can't do it in a solve because I have to regrip, and it's a very slow regrip. I also often miss the M' with the middle finger, and if I then do the U' afterwards (for the H perm) I have to do U' U' U' or U2' U', then some very slow M fingertrick due to my hand position to correct the mistake. When timing algs I do M2', but I can't do it efficiently or quickly in a solve.
 
I can't do it in a solve because I have to regrip, and it's a very slow regrip. I also often miss the M' with the middle finger, and if I then do the U' afterwards (for the H perm) I have to do U' U' U' or U2' U', then some very slow M fingertrick due to my hand position to correct the mistake. When timing algs I do M2', but I can't do it efficiently or quickly in a solve.

I have to regrip as well, I think it's because I do M moves with my right hand and I hold it slightly high than my left. I don't really dislike the regrip for Z and M, but I don't use MU Uperms because of it, even though when timing I can do the clockwise one faster than RU. Perhaps you should try lefty.
 
I have to regrip as well, I think it's because I do M moves with my right hand and I hold it slightly high than my left. I don't really dislike the regrip for Z and M, but I don't use MU Uperms because of it, even though when timing I can do the clockwise one faster than RU. Perhaps you should try lefty.
I hold my left and right hands at the same height when I do MU stuff, so there's no regrip for me unless I need to do an M2' like in H/Z perms, but I don't need to do this for MU U perms. What do you mean try lefty? You mean doing M moves with my left hand? That would just have the same problem but mirrored...
 
I hold my left and right hands at the same height when I do MU stuff, so there's no regrip for me unless I need to do an M2' like in H/Z perms, but I don't need to do this for MU U perms. What do you mean try lefty? You mean doing M moves with my left hand? That would just have the same problem but mirrored...

I assumed you had a similar grip. I can do lefty M' moves regripless and M2 with my pinky, it's just slower and since you can't do the right hand one anyway.
 

I'm a total nub when it comes to counting frames and stuff, but I'd really like to see the exact (or at least something that's more accurate than what I did) tps on that last layer.
 
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I'm a total nub when it comes to counting frames and stuff, but I'd really like to see the exact (or at least something that's more accurate than what I did) tps on that last layer.

It would take too long for me to download this vid.

Open it with windows media player, right-click > Enhancements > Play speed settings. A window comes up with two buttons to toggle frame by frame, just count how many frames there are, x, then do 30/x.
 
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