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kclejeune said:
And the point I'm trying to make to you is that I haven't had the chance to get the oh so important official results. Since Dixon, I have not had a comp with skewb within a 12 hour radius. I've improved greatly, and I will no doubt smash my current average with the next one I get.
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For the one chance you had, you bombed.

You're claiming crazy times that you can't back up with official results, and people are giving you flack for that. However, I've seen Sajwo being extremely mean to people for their times, so don't feel too bad about it.

Until you get those types of times in competition, not everyone will have faith in you. Surely you must realize that.

tseitsei said:
My two cents: I believe most of the peoples times they post here (including kclejeunes times) are real, BUT I think the official competition times ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT in measuring who is the best. After all that's why we have competitions. To compete and find out who is the fastest (also for fun ofcourse :) ).

I think so mainly because just like in any other sport you have to "prove"(even tough I believe peoples unofficial times) that you are better than your opponent in official competition. Nobody really cares how good you are when practising by yourself, you must do well in competitions. That's one of the great things in many sports: you have to do well in the right place and time.

Again just my opinion. You are free to agree/disagree if you want.
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What a perfect way to describe this situation.
 
Ninja Storm said:
For the one chance you had, you bombed.

You're claiming crazy times that you can't back up with official results, and people are giving you flack for that. However, I've seen Sajwo being extremely mean to people for their times, so don't feel too bad about it.

Until you get those types of times in competition, not everyone will have faith in you. Surely you must understand that.
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I get that. I bombed it, I'm not denying that. It was also two months ago, and I have improved a lot. I also have no doubt I will smash it the next time I get to compete in skewb. I can't prove myself until I get that chance. And yeah don't worry, he's not affecting me. Just motivating me even more to go for a record haha.
 
kclejeune said:
I get that. I bombed it, I'm not denying that. It was also two months ago, and I have improved a lot. I also have no doubt I will smash it the next time I get to compete in skewb. I can't prove myself until I get that chance. And yeah don't worry, he's not affecting me. Just motivating me even more to go for a record haha.
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I hate to jump in here, because I know I'm not one to be talking, but: How is this time's "no doubt" different from last time? Last time you said "no doubt" you'd get NAR/WR, but you didn't. How is now any different?
 
yoshinator said:
I hate to jump in here, because I know I'm not one to be talking, but: How is this time's "no doubt" different from last time? Last time you said "no doubt" you'd get NAR/WR, but you didn't. How is now any different?
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I'm not guaranteeing I'll break a record this time. Last time I didn't realize how much more pressure there is when you're capable of WR. I know I'll smash my current average because it's so awful, but I'm not going to try and say I can sub 4.78 on crappy scrambles.
 
ITT:

-Sajwo likes to make people feel bad
-Tim Major goes out of his way to target Kennan yet again
-"If you don't hold WR you suck"

Now I remember why I stopped coming here.
 
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The point is that unnoficial times mean nothing . Kennan thinks that he is the best in the world at skewb ("I can smash WR easily" , "Congrats to him, but it just got a whole lot harder for me to get WR..", scrambles looked way good ) and I know he is good but he forgets that there are better cubers, who proved their skill at competition (btw Miłosz Gdula said he has 4.3 avg100 and Tomasz Bogdanik has ~3.7 avg 12). I don't want to offense anyone, but his arrogance is annoying for me. Now I'm going to stop arguing and wait for his official times. I care about them more than about unnoficial UWRs. Good luck Kennan. Bye
 
Przemek Kaleta said:
The point is that unnoficial times mean nothing . Kennan thinks that he is the best in the world at skewb ("I can smash WR easily" , "Congrats to him, but it just got a whole lot harder for me to get WR..", scrambles looked way good ) and I know he is good but he forgets that there are better cubers, who proved their skill at competition (btw Miłosz Gdula said he has 4.3 avg100 and Tomasz Bogdanik has ~3.7 avg 12). I don't want to offense anyone, but his arrogance is annoying for me. Now I'm going to stop arguing and wait for his official times. I care about them more than about unnoficial UWRs. Good luck Kennan. Bye
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Oh I'm sorry, those are unofficial times so I guess I don't care. I don't THINK I can beat WR. I KNOW I can, I get averages lower very frequently, I'm not sure why you're trying to deny this. I'm not trying to be arrogant, I'm stating a fact. I am capable of WR. Also, if Tomasz has 3.7x why did you try and post 4.08 as UWR? I could make the same argument about them that you make about me, nether of them has a sub 5 official average.
 
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kclejeune said:
Oh I'm sorry, those are unofficial times so I guess I don't care. I don't THINK I can beat WR. I KNOW I can, I get averages lower very frequently, I'm not sure why you're trying to deny this. I'm not trying to be arrogant, I'm stating a fact. I am capable of WR. Also, if Tomasz has 3.7x why did you try and post 4.08 as UWR? I could make the same argument about them that you make about me, nether of them has a sub 5 official average.
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For sure their times are more legit than yours. :)
 
I agree Kennan might be a little arrogant saying he could beat WR easily, but you shouldn't judge his speed solely by his official times. The first time I competed in skewb, I got total crap, just like he did.
However, on the third time I competed I got lucky, and got a great average. Does that mean my overall average was suddenly faster? No. All it means is that I got a better average in competition.

Official and unofficial times are two different things, and are used to measure two different things. Unofficial times measure how fast you've gotten at home, and official times measure the times you have achieved in an official competition setting. Period. Neither are perfect measures of a competitor’s true speed. However, the official results are 100% legitimate, and therefore most often use to find out who's the best.
 
antoineccantin said:
I agree Kennan might be a little arrogant saying he could beat WR easily, but you shouldn't judge his speed solely by his official times. The first time I competed in skewb, I got total crap, just like he did.
However, on the third time I competed I got lucky, and got a great average. Does that mean my overall average was suddenly faster? No. All it means is that I got a better average in competition.

Official and unofficial times are two different things, and are used to measure two different things. Unofficial times measure how fast you've gotten at home, and official times measure the times you have achieved in an official competition setting. Period. Neither are perfect measures of a competitor’s true speed. However, the official results are 100% legitimate, and therefore most often use to find out who's the best.
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Thank you. I agree with almost all of what you said, but I would like to clear up me sounding arrogant.. I never ever intended to sound stuck up or anything like that. Antoine fully deserves the average he got, as does Jonatan. When I say I am capable of beating WR fairly easily, I do not mean by any means that I am the only one capable. There are a lot of people who could break it at the present moment. (including you. Yes, you are vgj at skewb)

So other than that I completely agree with what you said. It's luck of the draw when it comes to skewb, in the one round I got I happened to have bad luck.

So TL;DR I agree with Antoine completely, and I honestly didn't intend to sound arrogant or stuck up. I apologize sincerely if I ever came across that way. Thanks.
 
Sajwo said:
For sure their times are more legit than yours. :)
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So you got a 6 second single, and are ranked 30th in the world. Are you the 30th best in the world at 3x3 just because you got that single? Because that's basically what your arguments could conclude.

You're being a moron. If you define being good at cubing as having good official results, then your argument is essentially "WR holder has good official results because he has good official results." It's pointless. Kennan's speed is completely independent of his competition results. I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just an idiot, but you're annoying as **** either way.
 
IRNjuggle28 said:
So you got a 6 second single, and are ranked 30th in the world. Are you the 30th best in the world at 3x3 just because you got that single? Because that's basically what your arguments could conclude.
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I made that point, but
Sajwo said:
Yes, and You are not the fastest person in 4BLD
Don't know if I said that before, but single WR means much less than avg
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Apparently singles don't matter, even for bigBLD...
 
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