Random Cubing Discussion

I've noticed a few posts in the past where someone doesn't understand the specifics of certain CLL recognition systems. I'm going to try to show the differences.

Standard:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the U center color



2. Check set positions for matching, neutral, or opposite colors

Example 1 - R U R' U R U2 R'

Example 2 - R U' L' U R' U' L


NMCLL:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the L+R center colors



2. Check set positions for matching, neutral, or opposite colors

Example 1 - U2 F R' F' R U2 R U2 R' U'

Example 2 - U2 F' L F L' U2 L' U2 L U


Hyperorientations:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the U center color



2a. Check a set position



2b. Find the remaining orientation of related stickers

Example 1 - R U R' U R U2 R'

Example 2 - R U' L' U R' U' L
 
It was kinda funny. In English today my teacher was googling something and she had the projector loading and it had the Rubik's cube and she's like "Oh yeah, i was watching the news this morning and they said today was the 40th aniversary of the cube" and then literally like half of the class just stares at me to see my reaction because most of them know i speedsolve.
 
Bhargav777 said:
Can someone answer this please?
Consider, I'm solving megaminx. While dropping it down and after stopping the timer, the cube rolls and is about the fall. To be on the safer side I keep my hand below the table where it might land. The cube falls over my Palm and I just put it back on the table. The judge sees I make no turns either while catching or while redirecting it back to the table. Will that be a +2 or no penalty?
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Yeah, I know I'm like 2 months late, but having read the responses I feel like replying, as none of them seem to state that a penalty MUST be applied for catching it. The judge cannot inspect the puzzle while it is rolling because

10b) Only the resting state of the puzzle, after the timer has been stopped, is considered.

Therefore the puzzle has not been inspected when it is touched and the following regulation must be applied, for a +2 or DNF at the judge's discretion:

A6e) The competitor must not touch or move the puzzle until the judge has inspected the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF). Exception: If no moves have been applied, a time penalty (+2 seconds) may be assigned instead, at the discretion of the judge.

I think the risk of pieces/caps popping is probably quite high if the floor is hard so I would catch the puzzle and hope that the judge is alert enough to give you the benefit of the doubt that the puzzle was solved before it was caught and therefore it's a +2.

Or you could put the puzzle down a bit more carefully :p
 
kinch2002 said:
Yeah, I know I'm like 2 months late, but having read the responses I feel like replying, as none of them seem to state that a penalty MUST be applied for catching it. The judge cannot inspect the puzzle while it is rolling because

10b) Only the resting state of the puzzle, after the timer has been stopped, is considered.

Therefore the puzzle has not been inspected when it is touched and the following regulation must be applied, for a +2 or DNF at the judge's discretion:

A6e) The competitor must not touch or move the puzzle until the judge has inspected the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF). Exception: If no moves have been applied, a time penalty (+2 seconds) may be assigned instead, at the discretion of the judge.

I think the risk of pieces/caps popping is probably quite high if the floor is hard so I would catch the puzzle and hope that the judge is alert enough to give you the benefit of the doubt that the puzzle was solved before it was caught and therefore it's a +2.

Or you could put the puzzle down a bit more carefully :p
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Thanks :P
 
Athefre said:
I've noticed a few posts in the past where someone doesn't understand the specifics of certain CLL recognition systems. I'm going to try to show the differences.

Standard:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the U center color



2. Check set positions for matching, neutral, or opposite colors

Example 1 - R U R' U R U2 R'

Example 2 - R U' L' U R' U' L


NMCLL:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the L+R center colors



2. Check set positions for matching, neutral, or opposite colors

Example 1 - U2 F R' F' R U2 R U2 R' U'

Example 2 - U2 F' L F L' U2 L' U2 L U


Hyperorientations:
1. Find the orientation of the stickers that match the U center color



2a. Check a set position



2b. Find the remaining orientation of related stickers

Example 1 - R U R' U R U2 R'

Example 2 - R U' L' U R' U' L
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I would like to add my CLL recognition system to this. I am working on making a page that shows each recog case with an alg for various kinds of CLL. Any name suggestions would be nice as well.

UN-NAMED:
1. Look at a corner and take note of the 2 colors on it that are not the U center color



2. Find the location of the matching colors

Example 1 - U2 R' U' R U' l U' R' U l' U2 R

Example 2 - U2 R' U2 R U R' U R2 U' r' F R' F' r
I am aware that you can't use this recognition system from 2 sides, but with so few pieces to look for, it is easy to track them before you get to the step.
 
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