Random Cubing Discussion

[Bhargav777]

Can someone answer this please?
Consider, I'm solving megaminx. While dropping it down and after stopping the timer, the cube rolls and is about the fall. To be on the safer side I keep my hand below the table where it might land. The cube falls over my Palm and I just put it back on the table. The judge sees I make no turns either while catching or while redirecting it back to the table. Will that be a +2 or no penalty?

 

[kcl]

Can someone answer this please?
Consider, I'm solving megaminx. While dropping it down and after stopping the timer, the cube rolls and is about the fall. To be on the safer side I keep my hand below the table where it might land. The cube falls over my Palm and I just put it back on the table. The judge sees I make no turns either while catching or while redirecting it back to the table. Will that be a +2 or no penalty?

If your judge is a mildly decent person they'll say no penalty. To be safe it's probably best to let it fall and ask the judge to inspect it first.

 

[antoineccantin]

Can someone answer this please?
Consider, I'm solving megaminx. While dropping it down and after stopping the timer, the cube rolls and is about the fall. To be on the safer side I keep my hand below the table where it might land. The cube falls over my Palm and I just put it back on the table. The judge sees I make no turns either while catching or while redirecting it back to the table. Will that be a +2 or no penalty?

Take your jacket and throw it under the table so that your megaminx lands on it, unharmed.

 

[TDM]

If your judge is a mildly decent person they'll say no penalty.

If your judge is a mildly decent judge they'll say +2.

 

[kcl]

If your judge is a mildly decent judge they'll say +2.

If your judge understands the fact that megaminx(es?) roll pretty easily, they'll probably be understanding.

 

[TDM]

If your judge understands the fact that megaminx(es?) roll pretty easily, they'll probably be understanding.

"If your judge understands [something], they'll probably be understanding"
If it's in the regulations that they should give a +2 or a DNF at their discretion, an understanding judge will give them a +2 as that's the least they can give.

 

[kcl]

"If your judge understands [something], they'll probably be understanding"
If it's in the regulations that they should give a +2 or a DNF at their discretion, an understanding judge will give them a +2 as that's the least they can give.

That being said, give me credit. I said to be safe you should either A. Ask them to catch it
B. Ask to catch it
C. Let it fall and ask to pick it up.

 

[TDM]

That being said, give me credit. I said to be safe you should either A. Ask them to catch it
B. Ask to catch it
C. Let it fall and ask to pick it up.

You never said the first two before, although I'd agree with you that any of those would be a good thing to do.

 

[kcl]

You never said the first two before, although I'd agree with you that any of those would be a good thing to do.

Touché, but my point was to get help from the judge whether it be them grabbing it or them granting you permission to grab it.

 

[Bhargav777]

Take your jacket and throw it under the table so that your megaminx lands on it, unharmed.

Sadlee, I'm no Bruce Lee to have that reflex

If your judge is a mildly decent judge they'll say +2.

Got one for 3x3 a few comps back, so I should just be patient enough to drop it down properly, right? Thanks!

That being said, give me credit. I said to be safe you should either A. Ask them to catch it
B. Ask to catch it
C. Let it fall and ask to pick it up.

Last one seems doable. Thanks anyway

 

[TDM]

Sadlee, I'm no Bruce Lee to have that reflex

You could put it down before.

Got one for 3x3 a few comps back, so I should just be patient enough to drop it down properly, right? Thanks!

Trying to drop it vertically and not have it roll out of your hands should reduce how much it rolls after you stop the timer. If that doesn't work, it's either let it fall or slow down the solve... neither of which are good options. If what I said doesn't work, then sorry, but idk what to do

 

[uberCuber]

"If your judge understands [something], they'll probably be understanding"
If it's in the regulations that they should give a +2 or a DNF at their discretion, an understanding judge will give them a +2 as that's the least they can give.

Actually, the judge can give no penalty. A6e says you can't touch the puzzle until the judge inspects it. Well, as a judge, my inspection of the puzzle is generally finished as the timer is being stopped. By the time it starts rolling off the table, I have already inspected it and the competitor is free to catch it.

 

[kcl]

Actually, the judge can give no penalty. A6e says you can't touch the puzzle until the judge inspects it. Well, as a judge, my inspection of the puzzle is generally finished as the timer is being stopped. By the time it starts rolling off the table, I have already inspected it and the competitor is free to catch it.

That's basically why I said what I did, because this is how I judge stuff also. Unless it's a big cube with obliques switched, it only takes a couple seconds to inspect.

 

[antoineccantin]

That's basically why I said what I did, because this is how I judge stuff also. Unless it's a big cube with obliques switched, it only takes a couple seconds to inspect.

And obliques being switched aren't something you can fix in one second while catching it.

 

[kcl]

And obliques being switched aren't something you can fix in one second while catching it.

Also true, which is why I think it would be no penalty with a lot of judges.

 

[Kit Clement]

That's basically why I said what I did, because this is how I judge stuff also.

But this has nothing to do with being a decent person, it's just how the regulations are written. I can be a total ass and still be able to judge whether their puzzle is solved before it was touched, and then apply what I think would be the worst case penalty to that. Maybe if the judge wasn't attentive enough a penalty would have to apply, but whether that judge is a decent person or not is just a judgement of character, nor their judging ability.

 

[Bhargav777]

But this has nothing to do with being a decent person, it's just how the regulations are written. I can be a total ass and still be able to judge whether their puzzle is solved before it was touched, and then apply what I think would be the worst case penalty to that. Maybe if the judge wasn't attentive enough a penalty would have to apply, but whether that judge is a decent person or not is just a judgement of character, nor their judging ability.

Why not something like, "you are allowed to catch it with your Palm and drop it back on the table unless the judge is sure that you made no moves later"?

 

[guysensei1]

I think this is an ok place to post this...











I haven't done blue yet. Will do when my cubicle stickers arrive.

 

[Ninja Storm]

That green one looks pretty sick. Are you trading/selling these?

 

[guysensei1]

That green one looks pretty sick. Are you trading/selling these?

I've sold them all to my friends.
If there is enough people here willing to buy one, I may make another batch.