yoshinator
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What was that alternative pi OLL you showed? It looks like it could be a nice CLL
R' F R F' R U' R' U' R U' R' It's just a regular CLL alg
What was that alternative pi OLL you showed? It looks like it could be a nice CLL
Thanks for this amazing video! You have shown some wonderful algs! All this time I had used bad algs but now, thanks to you, I have got better ones!
Oh sorry, but what alg do you use for the bar on the bottom, diagonal on top? mine is the L D' L F2 L' D L' but i really don't like it. do you have a better one?
You can put the bar on bottom left and do R2 U' R2 U R2 U' R2 U R2
Oh sorry, but what alg do you use for the bar on the bottom, diagonal on top? mine is the L D' L F2 L' D L' but i really don't like it. do you have a better one?
wrt the video, I'm not really sure I understand why you'd use Ortega for this. I mean you admit it's easier to use CLL/EG, so why bother with Ortega at that point? Perhaps if you don't like learning algs particularly, but I don't really think that's that bad.
It seems to me kinda like trying to get sub-15 3x3 with LBL, yeah I'm sure it's possible, but it's more effort for not really any gain.
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After watching the rest of the video, it's all pretty solid advice though, good job!
Wow, Ortega can be a lot faster than I used to think it could :O
that's from 2009? D:
I still use the other one you gave me, R U' R' U' R' F2 U' R U R and I love it.
Ortega is usable to get sub-3, but tbh if you're going down the PBL road, it's best to start using tricks from Guimond/SS/OFOTA/SNAP to get a 3ish Ortega user to sub 2.5, rather than going 'deeper' into Ortega.
Your algs really helped a lot. I was averaging 9 seconds but now I've cut 2 seconds immediately by watching this. Thanks a lot!
I see you think that this is for 3x3. Just a heads up, this is for 2x2 using Ortega...
(It says up the top in the quote)
I think you're over-estimating how hard it is to get sub-3. Every tip in here, other than OLL prediction, is actually really easy to learn and abuse. On the other hand, I can't really speak about sub-2.5, I've started incorporating more CLL into my solves, which is what has gotten me closer to sub-2.5.
More I mean that it's easier to progress to sub 2.5 using more advanced methods even though they take more learning/work initially. If you only care about getting sub-3, I would advocate doing your route
I'm not sure that I agree. The things that you learn about 2x2 by working and getting "deeper" into Ortega (imo) are really valuable when it comes to, as you say, getting sub-2.5. Making really efficient faces, keeping track of your first layer permutation, OLL prediction, are all things that are going to make you better at 2x2 overall.
If you don't like the rotations R2' U' R2 U2' F2 U' R2 is always an option.Some nice tips in the video and some nice algs in the thread, I sometimes use Ortega when I can't find a good layer for CLL.
Do most people use that alg with the y rotation for adj-adj? I've never liked the rotation much. I messed around and found R2 U' R2' [(U' z) L'] U2 L' U2, which is weird but no regrips (the middle bit is a little odd, I've tried to clarify as much as possible with brackets).