Easy method for OLL and PLL?

[Cuberty]

My brother has reached OLL and PLL, and he does not like the algorithms, is there a method that requires less algorithms?

 

[Cubenovice]

Heise method has no algs...

 

[Penguino138]

My brother has reached OLL and PLL, and he does not like the algorithms, is there a method that requires less algorithms?

Here are links to 2 Look OLL and PLL. Instead of having to memorize 50+ algs, you can just memorize less than 15! This is where I first learned it.

OLL: http://cubefreak.weebly.com/2-look-oll.html

PLL: http://cubefreak.weebly.com/2-look-pll.html

EDIT: Also, here on speedsovling, there is more than one algorithm per case he can choose from, if it's the certain patterns he doesn't like:

OLL: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/OLL

PLL: http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/PLL

 

[asportking]

Are you just trying to teach him how to solve a cube or is he actually a speedcuber? Because if he just wants to solve the cube, I'd recommend he learn the beginners last layer (I think that only requires like 4 algorithms). If he's speedcuber, then he could try CLL/ELL, which I believe is about 10 algs shorter.

 

[tx789]

3 look last layer or if he mad enoght zbll thought it had like 300. CLL/ELL has less. Theres COLL

 

[fastcubesolver]

only use J-perm, and set-up moves.

 

[emolover]

As asportking said, he should learn CLL and ELL instead of OLL and PLL. It will make him more unique and CLL and ELL are just as good as OLL and PLL.

CLL requires only 2 algorithms to be solved and 9 for 2look which I would strongly recommend.
ELL requires only 2 algorithms to be solved and 5 for 2look which I would strongly recommend.

Tell him to pick his balls off the ground and learn those 14 algorithms because learning algs is not hard. Also he could use the CLL's if he ever tries roux.

 

[Cuberty]

Tell him to pick his balls off the ground and learn those 14 algorithms because learning algs is not hard. Also he could use the CLL's if he ever tries roux.

That's very unlikely. He took a week and a half to learn F2L.

 

[Kirjava]

Here's another two look system with less algs than OLL/PLL or CLL/ELL

https://sites.google.com/site/athefre/nmll

It's possible to do two look LL with ~10 algs, but it's difficult to learn for other reasons.

 

[BadMeetsEvil]

Here's another two look system with less algs than OLL/PLL or CLL/ELL

https://sites.google.com/site/athefre/nmll

It's possible to do two look LL with ~10 algs, but it's difficult to learn for other reasons.

Doesn't NMLL require pre-orientation of LL edges? Using it for a CFOP solve would require 3 looks or more algs right? I think it was proposed for ZZ/Petrus.

 

[Kirjava]

Doesn't NMLL require pre-orientation of LL edges? Using it for a CFOP solve would require 3 looks or more algs right? I think it was proposed for ZZ/Petrus.

Not if you use EOLS.

It's certainly better than VH.

 

[cubersmith]

If you mean a better method for learning OLL/PLL then 2look. If you are looking for a totally different method then heise.

 

[Kirjava]

8355 > Heise for beginners.

 

[Cheese11]

All you need is Sune, F U R U' R' F', and a J-Perm.

 

[Kirjava]

All you need is Sune, F U R U' R' F', and a J-Perm.

Actually, all you need is RUR'U'R'FRF'

 

[SamKennedy]

I found my old website which explains a very basic method of solving the cube, the website is OLD but could still be helpful, here is the OLL page: http://samscubepage.tripod.com/oll.html
and the PLL page: http://samscubepage.tripod.com/pll.html

You only need 4 algorithms to finish the last layer, they are on the website.

Hope that helps!

 

[evogler]

I've successfully shown a few people:

[F: sexy] for eo
[R2 D': M',U2] for ep
[sexy, L'] for cp
z2 then sexy's + D's for co

I think I got most of this from Erik's method. I like how they are all pretty easy to understand, rather than just memorize.

ep could also be [sexy, lexy] or [F E' F; sexy, M']
Edges altogether can also be different setups to M' U2 M U2

Also I like setups to J-perm or T-perm (I find T-perm a little easier).

 

[AgentKuo]

At OP:
How do you cube and not like algorithms?

 

[evogler]

Actually, all you need is RUR'U'R'FRF'

Hmm... I can do orientation using only RUR'U'R'FRF' and y, but I think I need either M and U or more rotations to do permutation. Is that right?

 

[Kirjava]

You can do CP at least. I forget if EP is possible.