[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

JonnyWhoopes said:
No. Just no.
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Isn't it obvious what he meant? He was saying what everyone else was saying- that you can use the nine two-look corners algs to solve CMLL. He said OLL / PLL for whatever reason, but I doubt he actually meant Fridrich OLL and PLL. He was probably just pointing out that the algs used by Rouxers to do two look corners are, in a lot of cases, shared by Fridrich users.

tl;dr Why be mean?
 
Anonymous said:
Isn't it obvious what he meant? He was saying what everyone else was saying- that you can use the nine two-look corners algs to solve CMLL. He said OLL / PLL for whatever reason, but I doubt he actually meant Fridrich OLL and PLL. He was probably just pointing out that the algs used by Rouxers to do two look corners are, in a lot of cases, shared by Fridrich users.

tl;dr Why be mean?
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It might have been obvious (and it may not have). But there are a few things that bothered be about it. First, he said LL. CMLL isn't even part of the LL. And LL isn't even really in the sense that most people think of when they say LL. To me it was clear he didn't really know much about Roux, and shouldn't be trying to help somebody with something he doesn't understand. Secondly, just because we may know what he means, doesn't mean we should tolerate blatant mistakes. I didn't mind the OLL/PLL comment so much, more the fact that it seemed obvious that he didn't know much about Roux. Now, why should I be mean? I probably shouldn't. I'll try to keep myself in check.

tl;dr
I had a bad day, and somebody hit my nerves. I'll do better.
 
[Roux] How to learn CMLL?

Hi guys, 3 weeks ago i start learn Roux method, now my result is avg100 26 sec. (Earlier i use fridrich but it's so boring i have result avg100 16.34) I learn base techniques, yes i need more practic, (3 months of summer :DDD) now i want start learn CMLL, i found table of Alghorithms
http://helm.lu/cube/cmll/cmll.html
But, how to learn all that ????? Somebody can say me easiest way to learn CMLL, or any way to learn it, cuz learn all of this at one time i think it's IMPOSIBRUUU :DDDD
 
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You learn 1 or 2 at a time. Practice them a lot. Over and over.
Come back a few minutes later and try to remember them without looking at the charts, keep practicing doing the algs over and over. Repeat a few hours later.
Next day, make sure you remember them, and then learn 1 or 2 more. Just keep going like that. If you feel like you are forgetting or having trouble, stop learning new ones and just focus on the old ones for a while.
 
Do you recognise the cases on the left as being the OCLL cases (B is anti-sune, C is sune, H is... well I always called those ones H anyway). Just learn one set of those at a time, there are only 6 per set, and you'll already know one of them from Fridrich OCLL, so that's only 5 cases per set.
Start with H as it's only 4 cases (two are really easy) then every time you have an H case you can do the CMLL alg, if not you can use your regular method.
Once you've got a set down, move onto another set.

One word of warning... don't learn more than one set at a time... I'm currently working through the fact that I learned the CLL algs in a week, and it's taken another week to begin to sort out my recognition/recollection problems.
You'll probably want to check out somewhere else for help with the recognition system... once I work out what set the CLL is I then look at the other stickers and notice which ones are the same, opposites, or adjacents, it's tricky to get used to what it is you should be looking at if you're just coming from Fridrich.
Good luck.

EDIT: actually, yeah, what Zarxrax said... don't learn the algs from each set too quickly, one or two a day is fine.
 
Learn a constant amount every day and immediately apply them to solves. I learnt a set a day, but had recall problems days after learning however...

The wiki also has some nice algs.

Also: don't learn just the recog; learn the swap and roux number! Goodluck.
 
What should I average before I learn CMLL? Right now I'm at about 26-28. I'm learning R-OLLs so when I have a CLL case and know how to solve it like that, I do it that way, but I only know like 4 R-OLLs so far.
 
thx all for help, so all newest algos can find at that link, and table with the new(good) algorithms do not exist ?:)
 
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