Dayan vs. V-Cube Patent Infringement

[Pixel 6]

So now cube sellers need to be Patent Attorneys to sell a product they didn't manufacture?

So if you have a small car lot that sells Ford, and Chevy comes along and has somebody else tell you that you can't sell Ford anymore, and then follow that up with absolutely NO information to the Ford salesman, and makes no formal claim stating how Ford infringed on Chevy's rights, you just go with the flow?

Now tell me,

As this Ford salesman... what do you do with all the cars sitting in your lot you already purchased that you can now not sell? And what about all those people that were coming to your lot to buy your cars?

I'm reminded of a saying... "innocent until proven guilty." I haven't seen an inditement that this is a formal claim in a court of law, so where's the proof?

Interesting that all of V-cube's competition has been removed a few weeks before the largest sales holiday of the year...

Christmas miracle!

- Pixel -

 

[choza244]

After watching a video with a couple of cube sellers falsely claiming there is no resemblance to the patent,
and desperately attempting to publicly ridicule Verdes, I believe the outcome is very fair.

The outcome is very fair???? the design of the GuHong is different, maybe is just like the other people say, that Verdes is jealous that the GuHong is selling very well and has a good mechanism, and he thinks that every other cube is a copy of his invention.

and the outcome is not even fair.

 

[Fire Cuber]

yeah, maru and guhong is pretty similar.

 

[kastellorizo]

I won't repeat what I just said. The results are based on facts, and not anyone's tooth fairy theories.
One thing is for sure, the lawyers are not blinded (like I am) by their friendship with Verdes. Just because
some of you have lost (temporarily *wink wink*) their fast cubes, is no reason to lash out like that.

Patience people, and normal service will resume. Trust me!!!

 

[Fire Cuber]

I won't repeat what I just said. The results are based on facts, and not anyone's tooth fairy theories.
One thing is for sure, the lawyers are not blinded (like I am) by their friendship with Verdes. Just because
some of you have lost (temporarily *wink wink*) their fast cubes, is no reason to lash out like that.

Patience people, and normal service will resume. Trust me!!!

It seems that you don't care and read what peoples said. Read again and just stop uselessly arguing like that.
I (and not only me, I am pretty sure) think that your words are just some hypes and they are away from reality.

Bolded part :

I'm pretty sure that this is not going to be temporarily gone. All peoples knows that V things are slow man at mass producing. Look at the maru 4x4 which is the same case as this.

The famous thing from this is that V things pull out cubes that are popular and tell peoples that they are going to release one.
But, they didn't even release it for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month and even years. What an epic win.

Anyway that post is a uselessly useless post, that post has wasted my time.

 

[Pixel 6]

I won't repeat what I just said. The results are based on facts, and not anyone's tooth fairy theories.
One thing is for sure, the lawyers are not blinded (like I am) by their friendship with Verdes. Just because
some of you have lost (temporarily *wink wink*) their fast cubes, is no reason to lash out like that.

Patience people, and normal service will resume. Trust me!!!

You seem to know something of this. Were listings pulled from eBay by Verdes?

- Pixel -

 

[a510592]

In my opinion, if v-cubes wants to prevent people from "stealing" their patents, they need to produce the cubes that they have "patented". If they aren't going to release new cubes then why keep other companies from producing good cubes? People have been waiting like 3-4 years for v-cube to make the 2x2-4x4 and 8x8-11x11 that they have patented, if it's not going to happen then screw v-cubes I am going to buy it form other people. Put it into production or let other people do it, v-cubes the choice is yours.

 

[nickvu2]

As this Ford salesman... what do you do with all the cars sitting in your lot you already purchased that you can now not sell? And what about all those people that were coming to your lot to buy your cars?

I may, or may not, still be willing to buy GuHongs from you. The prohibition era of cubing has arrived. I'll see you in the underground. Viva la GuHong!

...but, tread lightly, Lord Verde-mort may be watching.

 

[kastellorizo]

Wrong. I do care about poverty and donate regularly. Do you? Now, how about LUXURY items
like puzzles? Oh yes, I also care, but not for those who have no patents or business, because
simply, they do not know how hard it is to run a company. For your information, Verdes is NOT
making a profit of this, thanks to those you so "elegantly" support.

And it seems some of you do not care about inventors, and only care about your pockets.
At least you could admit the *real* reality (i.e. you behave as if your life depends on it,
while it is Verdes which is investing all the time, not you).

Please say something new (instead of blaming Verdes and now me). And let me sound like
a bad guy, I got no problem with that. But at least, I won't support companies which copy.

You can vent on me if you think that will make you a more ethical person. But will it?

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

Next thing you know, they'll say Dayan 4x4's are copyright infringement too.

 

[kastellorizo]

You seem to know something of this. Were listings pulled from eBay by Verdes?

- Pixel -

Pixel, I was talking about the new releases from Verdes, not about the ebay listings.
I wish I could say more, but you need to be patient for at most two more months (not more!).

 

[Stefan]

After watching a video with a couple of cube sellers falsely claiming there is no resemblance to the patent,
and desperately attempting to publicly ridicule Verdes

[citation needed]

- Where's that video?
- Where's the resemblence? The GuHong looks very different from the V-3, and more like based on Rubik's mechanism. And who besides Verdes/you sees an infringement? Any judge or so?

No reason to ridicule Verdes, btw, Verdes itself is doing an excellent job at that.

For those who insult the inventor

Like who?

At least, Verdes *has* ethics.

Lying, bullying, patent trolling, far premature announcements keeping others from pursuing their own mechanisms, using no washers so pieces wear down quickly and using no screws so we can't fix the problem, years of delays with almost no information, polluting competition venues with smoke and joking about it... yeah, awesome ethics.

there is a good blooming reason a patent exists, and that is to protect the inventor

That's not the rationale for patents, but feel free to "fix" wikipedia and tell the World Intellectual Property Organization that they got it wrong.

 

[Fire Cuber]

That post wasn't even answering any question on my/peoples argument. Again that man did this.

Like I said before, it seems that you don't care and read what peoples said. Now there is more evidence which is that post. Learn to care and read what peoples said.

That's all.

EDIT : thanks Mr.Stefan, I was going to post something like this, then I saw your post. Again I said thanks.

 

[James Ludlow]

So where exactly is still selling GuHongs? My wages clear tonight, and I have no ethics.

 

[izovire]

I edited the initial thread post and added a link to the "Video" and the "Patent".

That's a great post Stefan, I hope sometime soon a lot of this will get back onto the right track... We all enjoy speedcubing, yet we all enjoy the best performing speedcube available on the market... and there's always that law.

 

[kastellorizo]

Stefan, you never hid your grudges against me before, so I can understand your feelings.

You said you need proof to prove the opposite of what you want?

Just go to their YouTube video and you will see PLENTIFUL of insults. Just that statement of yours
was disgusting. I think you actually enjoy it, because you KNOW about it, yet you pretend (I wonder why)
that you don't. A lot of real trolling there too. So why am I a troll and you are not? Oh wait...

I see you hate smoking, so do I. And it seems it is a nice reason (for you) to label people.
So why shouldn't others label you too for your labeling?

As for IPs, it seems that someone is shut down and someone is not BASED on those rules
you quoted yourself. So the question is, who do *you* support?

 

[Pixel 6]

[citation needed]

- Where's that video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbKLE48CSQo


I just got off of talking with eBay, and they confirmed that Verdes Innovations has submitted documentation to eBay under penalty of perjury that their patent was being infringed upon. So for sure that part is correct.

eBay can not supply me with this document without a suppena.

- Pixel -

 

[James Ludlow]

who do *you* support?

I truly believe you and Verdes are wrong, so not you this time. I agree with the Maru and YJetc 5 6 and 7s, but this is ludicrous.

 

[DavidWoner]

Someone should teach Verdes how PR works.

 

[choza244]

I'm starting to hate Verdes' company, they don't produce any new cubes but they want to eradicate all the other good cubes that other people have created... please watch how different are the mecahnisms Kastellorizo and try to think objectively about if it's fair what Verdes is doing.