Easy / Lucky / Hard / Weird scrambles Thread

[FineGeoduck2211]

sub 0.4 is not possible for the average cuber. The average cuber on 2x2 averages 5 and uses LBL

I consider them noob then kinda,

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

0.2 is the average time to pick up the cube and put it down again.

Which you know because...? Besides, if it is average, that means it'll be faster around half of the time, assuming a symmetrical distribution, which, to some extent, seems reasonable enough to do.

No, sub 0.3 is not possible on stackmat, with keyboard timer yes

And to prove this wrong, I just tried U R U' R' a bunch on my trusted Qiyi MS, and got 0.29 pretty quickly. No, I did not film that, because I see little reason to go through the effort of doing so for a silly argument like this.

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

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Which you know because...? Besides, if it is average, that means it'll be faster around half of the time, assuming a symmetrical distribution, which, to some extent, seems reasonable enough to do.

And to prove this wrong, I just tried U R U' R' a bunch on my trusted Qiyi MS, and got 0.29 pretty quickly. No, I did not film that, because I see little reason to go through the effort of doing so for a silly argument like this.

You said you can't pick up the cube and put it down in 0.2, how are we going to believe that you got a 0.29 on stackmat? Stop lying about 2x2 singles, all of you. And you think filming is alot of effort to prove me wrong!?!?! the only reason you don't want to film is because 1. You didn't do it on stackmat, and 2. If you did do it on stackmat, you didn't do it wca legal. sub 0.3 is ONLY possible if it was framecounted or done on keyboard

 

[bldcuber314]

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You said you can't pick up the cube and put it down in 0.2, how are we going to believe that you got a 0.29 on stackmat? Stop lying about 2x2 singles, all of you. And you think filming is alot of effort to prove me wrong!?!?! the only reason you don't want to film is because 1. You didn't do it on stackmat, and 2. If you did do it on stackmat, you didn't do it wca legal. sub 0.3 is ONLY possible if it was framecounted or done on keyboard

@Jorian Meeuse was not saying that you can't pick up and put down in 0.2. He was saying you could likely do it in less. And also, you don't fully pick up, execute and put it back down. You start executing before you are in your final grip and start to put down the cube before it is fully solved. There is literally a video of a 0.28 WCA legal start and stop, and do you really think we are just randomly cheating? If you can get a 0.37, I'm sure the WR holder could get a sub 0.3, and he has. Please just stop this and listen to what we are saying as well.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

You said you can't pick up the cube and put it down in 0.2, how are we going to believe that you got a 0.29 on stackmat?

I never said that? All I said about picking up a cube in 0.2 seconds is that you claiming that 0.20 is the average pickup time is in no way an argument for not being able to get sub 0.30, partially because it is not at all supported by any evidence.

Stop lying about 2x2 singles, all of you.

Why would I have lied? There is literally zero incentive for me to try to win an online argument while knowingly having used flawed arguments, especially over something as senseless as this.

And you think filming is alot of effort to prove me wrong!?!?!

It's not a lot of effort, but I simply don't see the point. Why would I care if you don't believe me?

the only reason you don't want to film is because

No, I gave you the actual reason. And the two reasons you mentioned can't both be the only reason.

1. You didn't do it on stackmat,

Yes I did. I felt as though that was implicit, considering that was what this whole thing was about.

2. If you did do it on stackmat, you didn't do it wca legal.

Again, name any possible reason for me to do that. And if you can do that, name any possible reason for you to state that as a fact, while it is obviously an assumption, only made because you would otherwise have been wrong, which you see as something shameful (which it isn't, by the way. Not listening to the other side of the argument, on the other hand, is.)

sub 0.3 is ONLY possible if it was framecounted or done on keyboard

Keep claiming what you want. But you can't come up with any good reasoning for this claim without making non-valid assumptions.

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

If even you can do it, why don't you just send the vid? And prove me wrong once and for all? It's so simple, take ur camera, press the "record button", get sub 0.3, and send it here,

Keep claiming what you want. But you can't come up with any good reasoning for this claim without making non-valid assumptions.

 

[JDAW6]

If even you can do it, why don't you just send the vid? And prove me wrong once and for all? It's so simple, take ur camera, press the "record button", get sub 0.3, and send it here,

We did that and you called it “fake”

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

even you

Is that an insult?

prove me wrong once and for all?

I have already done that. You just don't believe me, which is fine.

It's so simple, take ur camera, press the "record button", get sub 0.3, and send it here,

You really expect me to listen to you if you don't even attempt to write a relevant response to my messages? This seems like a good moment for a repetition of this part of my earlier message:

something shameful (which it isn't, by the way. Not listening to the other side of the argument, on the other hand, is.)

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

Is that an insult?

No, I am trying to say that if you claim that you got a sub 0.3, why can't you prove it. I am not trying to insult anyone at all.

I have already done that. You just don't believe me, which is fine.

no, you haven't, if you have, can you remind me again?

Again, name any possible reason for me to do that. And if you can do that, name any possible reason for you to state that as a fact, while it is obviously an assumption, only made because you would otherwise have been wrong, which you see as something shameful (which it isn't, by the way. Not listening to the other side of the argument, on the other hand, is.)

wdy mean?!?!? I am reading and listening all your arguments? How have I not listened?

 

[JDAW6]

No, I am trying to say that if you claim that you got a sub 0.3, why can't you prove it. I am not trying to insult anyone at all.


no, you haven't, if you have, can you remind me again?


wdy mean?!?!? I am reading and listening all your arguments? How have I not listened?

Can someone ban this “24 year old” kid?

 

[OtaMota]

No, I am trying to say that if you claim that you got a sub 0.3, why can't you prove it. I am not trying to insult anyone at all.


no, you haven't, if you have, can you remind me again?


wdy mean?!?!? I am reading and listening all your arguments? How have I not listened?

Fun fact, lots of good 2x2ers have said they have gotten sub-0.3 singles or very close to it, just yesterday, Caleb Chen got a 0.32, also yesterday, Nigel, who has contacts with Teodor, told me that he recently got a 0.27 single. Its one thing for just Zayn to say he has gotten sub-0.3, but when there are just a lot of good 2x2ers who say its possible and have already done it, what do you think the answer is?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

No, I am trying to say that if you claim that you got a sub 0.3, why can't you prove it. I am not trying to insult anyone at all.

I fail see how that warranted the word 'even'. Don't get me wrong, I don't care if anyone is trying to insult me (there's more than enough people getting offended over what random other people say about them already), but I just thought I'd point it out.

no, you haven't, if you have, can you remind me again?

Sure, here you go: 'I have already proven your reasoning to be incorrect'.

wdy mean?!?!? I am reading and listening all your arguments? How have I not listened?

Well, my two points here are:
1. Your reasoning as to why sub 0.3 is impossible is based on the false assumption that the pickup must take 0.2 seconds.
2. I have done the thing that you claim is impossible.

As to how you haven't provided any substantial responses to these:
1. This whole point has been ignored entirely, and you only focus on point 2, because you know that point 1 isn't prone to lying, and hence obliterates your reasoning without question.
2. Of course, you're well within your rights to doubt the legitimacy of my claims. However, when asked why you do this, you only say that I'm not willing to film it, which is obviously not an explanation. I can only assume you do this because you can't point to something concrete, like a history of me lying, and because it diverts the attention away from point 1.

Now, these few posts I've made about this feel like some of the more useless posts I've made in a while, to the point where I was surprised to learn this argument was being held in the thread for remarkable scrambles, so I will not be posting anymore about this. Please have a great day, and if it makes you happy, please continue believing that sub-0.3 is impossible.

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

Can someone ban this “24 year old” kid?

what did I do!?!? You guys are over reacting, calm down, geez.

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

Fun fact, lots of good 2x2ers have said they have gotten sub-0.3 singles or very close to it, just yesterday, Caleb Chen got a 0.32, also yesterday, Nigel, who has contacts with Teodor, told me that he recently got a 0.27 single. Its one thing for just Zayn to say he has gotten sub-0.3, but when there are just a lot of good 2x2ers who say its possible and have already done it, what do you think the answer is?

Yea, and my mom said she got a 2.43 3x3 second solve. I can say I am a bird and everyone believes it. Just because you are wrold class doesn't mean that everything you say is true

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

Sure, here you go: 'I have already proven your reasoning to be incorrect'.

Well, my two points here are:
1. Your reasoning as to why sub 0.3 is impossible is based on the false assumption that the pickup must take 0.2 seconds.

how have you proven me incorrect? Also, if you read my posts before, i framecounted Phoenix Patterson's "0.28" and i counted 13/30 frames which = 0.43 seconds

 

[OtaMota]

Yea, and my mom said she got a 2.43 3x3 second solve. I can say I am a bird and everyone believes it. Just because you are wrold class doesn't mean that everything you say is true

What if it was at the very least 10 world class cubers, if not a lot more, saying that they have gotten a sub-0.3 or very close to it?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

how have you proven me incorrect? Also, if you read my posts before, i framecounted Phoenix Patterson's "0.28" and i counted 13/30 frames which = 0.43 seconds

I know I just said I won't say anything anymore, but I can't help but point out the irony in you first being frustrated about me saying you're ignoring my reasoning, and then proceeding to only pick out that part in my response that was clearly meant in a non-serious manner. And now, after noting you can't claim sub 0.3 is impossible because one certain solve was not sub 0.3, I will actually keep my mouth shut regarding this argument, and kindly ask everyone to do the same, for the sake of this thread and everyone's sanity.

 

[OtaMota]

and kindly ask everyone to do the same

Yeah, I guess I will do the same. The argument started bc precompsubwr got a 0.32, and geoduck thought was fake. After I showed a vid of Antonie getting a 0.31, I at least proved that precompsubwr getting 0.32 was possible, the original argument, and that's good enough I guess.

 

[FineGeoduck2211]

Yeah, I guess I will do the same. The argument started bc precompsubwr got a 0.32, and geoduck thought was fake. After I showed a vid of Antonie getting a 0.31, I at least proved that precompsubwr getting 0.32 was possible, the original argument, and that's good enough I guess.

precompsubwr Doesn't even have an official sub 2 average. Is it wrong for me to think this is fake?

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

precompsubwr Doesn't even have an official sub 2 average. Is it wrong for me to think this is fake?

Yes. Just because he doesn't have it officially doesn't mean he's not capable of it. There's nevres, cold hands, distractions, etc. And not as many lucky scrambles, if you can believe it.