speedcubedb announcement

[Deleted member 36445]

So... I opened speedcubedb today....
has any1 seen this?

 

[An Animating Cuber]

The video is restricted on my school laptop, what's it about?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

The video is restricted on my school laptop, what's it about?

He stops supporting his websites etc because he can't handle the situation between him and David Epstein anymore (David said racist things and bad stuff about people with autism). He tried getting the WCA involved but they won't listen either apparently. I don't know Davids side of the story though, but this is what he said in the video.

 

[An Animating Cuber]

He stops supporting his websites etc because he can't handle the situation between him and David Epstein anymore (David said racist things and bad stuff about people with autism). He tried getting the WCA involved but they won't listen either apparently. I don't know Davids side of the story though, but this is what he said in the video.

Oof I heard about the thing with David a while back, what a shame I really liked CubeDB.

 

[LBr]

Sorry to hear this. The community will always remember the contributions made by hardworking people such as gill. It is unfortunate how getting world class at a certain event can lead to one becoming entitled and too comfortable in their own bubble. In my country there have been many recent scandals involving police officers.
Anyway imma stop now bc this isn’t really the place for a massive argument and I don’t want to start one.

 

[VincentCuber]

I loved speedcubedb. I used it to learn all the PLLs that I know.

 

[Running for cube]

You can read about his post on the wca forum Here

 

[Cubinginatree]

I thought the WDC would do better. This is horrible. Gil if you’re reading this I’m sorry that the speedcubing community has treated you this way. I hope that you and your kids live a peaceful and happy life.

 

[Running for cube]

I really think this could end up being one of the more major events in wca history. We have a competitor be physically assaulted and another s******y assaulted, but the wca even locked this thread. Judging by the amount of likes some of these posts have this is catching fire. Here is Gil’s posts about this situation prior to the other.

 

[quanloh]

Maybe it is time to form International Cubing Association now? And let's adopt record down to 3 digit (0.001) this time.

WCA, if you are reading, yes, you do not have "authorities" over what happened out of competition, but still action can be done if you want to.
It doesn't matter now WCA, now other kids who are not mature enough may just start to boycott David, or maybe another mass harassment has already started, and that's on you WCA, now you lost a contributor of the community, and a potentially killed someone's cubing career.

My post on reddit:

Farewell Gil, thank you, for everything you contributed, participated, and the statement you made here.

To fellow cubers, just a reminder.

While this might started with David, and WCA's response might be questionable, this happened because of us, whoever knew it or at the scene but did not do anything it. We, the community is at fault, to let him felt "it's ok to be a bully" in this community.

I really feel thankful to those members who voiced out and tried to stop bad things from happening, but also at the same time very disappointed that we, including myself, stood by and did not shape the community healthy enough.

Let's make it good this time.

 

[gsingh]

I think this post sums it up quite nicely

 

[Dutch Speed]

It is just really sad this happened and i am really suprised how wca handled this. Especially having Max Park as a poster boy. And in every documentary about speedcubing Max Park story is highlighted and now this . I wonder how the parents of Max must feel about this. Just kick the brat out and let everyone know that we don’t tolerate bullying of any kind.

 

[OldSwiss]

This is so sad!

Gil gave so much to this community and this is how they thank him

I kind of understand that the WCA don't want to get into discussions like this, but we should't tolarate racism and harassment.

I still hope for a good outcome.

I love speedcubedb. There are other alg pages but no one is comparable to speedcubedb.
The number of algs, the possibilty to add own algs, to rate them, view the execution in videos and 3d animations, print your own alg sheets...
Especially the combination with the reconstructions, where you could see how often the pros used which alg was very unique.

I also love the reconstructions and the statistics about the pro cubers. There is nothing comparable to it.
Also the automatic solve reviews were such a great feature and I also loved some video content like the interactive competitions were really great.

If Gil stays with his decision I would hope that someone else could take over the pages and run them, even if they won't be too much new features without Gil.

 

[JohnnyReggae]

I am appalled and totally disgusted with the response from the WCA in this matter. Reading the WCA forum post where members of the WDC attack Gill for bringing this up makes me sick. Those people should be ashamed of themselves for supporting someone whose behavior is deplorable, and then attack an active contributing member of the cubing community in that fashion.

I hope that Gill finds some peace in stepping away.

David, you are a disgusting person. I hope you learn some lessons from this.

 

[quanloh]

David, you are a disgusting person. I hope you learn some lessons from this.

Please stop this, the best we can do is to stop anything like this from happening again, no point penalizing him at this point. Also he is just a trigger, what disappoints Gil (and now most of us) is how WCA handle this kind of issues. So please stop.

If you really do want to penalize him, the best is ignoring him entirely, whether he apologize sincerely in public or jump on you or anything, just ignoring him entirely, no reply, no comment, no like/dislike, nothing, let him be the lone island in the crowd.

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Please stop this, the best we can do is to stop anything like this from happening again, no point penalizing him at this point. Also he is just a trigger, what disappoints Gil (and now most of us) is how WCA handle this kind of issues. So please stop.

If you really do want to penalize him, the best is ignoring him entirely, whether he apologize sincerely in public or jump on you or anything, just ignoring him entirely, no reply, no comment, no like/dislike, nothing, let him be the lone island in the crowd.

You are right. It wasn't the appropriate thing to post, the perceived support given by the WCA to the perpetrator is what is really annoying me.

 

[LBr]

I think this post sums it up quite nicely
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True, and I thought the cubing community was one place people would actually refrain from conducting themselves in this way.
Ig I was wrong

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

True, and I thought the cubing community was one place people would actually refrain from conducting themselves in this way.
Ig I was wrong

I think overall the cubing community is a lot nicer and more friendly than many with other sports, but each communtiy is prone to bad behaviour. You can never expect something to be perfect.

 

[xyzzy]

David, you are a disgusting person. I hope you learn some lessons from this.

Realistically, what lesson do you think he's going to take away from this? That it's possible to bully someone hard enough to make them exit the community? He might well see this as a victory, not a loss.

 

[ruffleduck]

I've never exactly supported speedcubedb or Gil but I am completely sympathetic for him. The sq-1 community is... oof. There's some nice people like Sam but pretty much everyone else... yeah. Didn't know David would go this far, though. Very sad.