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I got an email saying that they had found a venue for the VIC State Championship. Hopefully it’s back on soon, I’m going to forget full EG if it’s past August.
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Small correction, that’s 5 championships in Australia, not 4.
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WCA Championship 2022 and 2023 Hosts Announcement (June 2021) | World Cube Association
The World Cube Association governs competitions for mechanical puzzles that are operated by twisting groups of pieces, commonly known as 'twisty puzzles'. The most famous of these puzzles is the Rubik's Cube, invented by professor Rubik from Hungary. A selection of these puzzles are chosen as...
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The Chicago proposal was significantly better than the Korea. I would love to hear the reasoning for the choice.
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It could have to do with the recent rise of highly skilled Asian competitors. Having it in Asia would make it more accessible to that demographic. Also it’s been like a decade since Asia has hosted iirc.
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I would sincerely hope that "well, we picked Korea because there seems to be a rise in Asian cubers" was not the actual reasoning.
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If that actually did have influence, I’m sure no one would come out and say it, but it very well could be an underlying sub-motive.
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Sharing it around. I can guarantee if Chicago was chosen, there would be people who live closer to Korea complaining. At the end of the day, it's what an entire committee of WCA members has decided on and I'm sure they have a good reason. Of course not everyone is going to be happy but it's the way it is.
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I read both the proposals and can't see how Chicago is significantly better. Could you elaborate?
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Lack of detail in the Korea proposal. Vague competitor limit. Less staff. Asking for input on layout. Choosing a venue that doesn't have the equipment for the event. Half the competitors of Chicago. Less experienced organizers. And on and on and on.
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This might help to clear up some confusion, posted on WCA Forum.
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Abhijeet Ghodgaonkar isn't on the selection committee. Is he speaking in generalities?
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>Lack of detail in the Korea proposal.
>Vague competitor limit.
Not too relevant IMO at proposal stage
> Less experienced organizers.
Korean organizer seems competent and experienced enough.
>Less staff.
>Asking for input on layout.
>Choosing a venue that doesn't have the equipment for the event.
Somehow I think these are not relevant details. There is no doubt that there will be stuff and equipment in Korea.
> Half the competitors of Chicago.
Is it half the capacity or less people are expected to come?
That sounds like a plausible argument but far from enough to claim that it is significantly better.
And there are some good arguments for Korea in general. E.g. no humiliating visa application process for big part of the world.
>Vague competitor limit.
Not too relevant IMO at proposal stage
> Less experienced organizers.
Korean organizer seems competent and experienced enough.
>Less staff.
>Asking for input on layout.
>Choosing a venue that doesn't have the equipment for the event.
Somehow I think these are not relevant details. There is no doubt that there will be stuff and equipment in Korea.
> Half the competitors of Chicago.
Is it half the capacity or less people are expected to come?
That sounds like a plausible argument but far from enough to claim that it is significantly better.
And there are some good arguments for Korea in general. E.g. no humiliating visa application process for big part of the world.
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Yeah I read both the applications more carefully and noticed a few mistakes in my comments.
I do not know anything about the selection process. I am like any other cuber.
I will edit out my comment to make more sense.
Thanks for pointing it out.
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Yes getting the visa for Seoul will be much easier. Getting the visa for Australia was super tough for me for WC2019. I had to apply twice, as they do not want to allow Indians even on tourist visa unless the person has a strong travel itinerary. My itinerary was just attend the comp and come back. Finally I had to apply for a sports visa (which is much more costly) and get through which was a long procedure. I expected getting the US Visa to be as tough as the Australia Visa if not to be more tougher.
I think both the Korean organizing team and CubingUSA team both seem well qualified to hold World Championship. I think there are a lot of deciding factors taken into consideration and there was no one outright factor that made Seoul get selected over Chicago.
Congrats KCCU!
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abunickabhi
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Yeah the Chicago public document is more detailed with 10 more pages and having pictures of the venue whereas the Seoul public document is just 5 pages with no photos of the SETEC convention centre and just one layout diagram.
I think the public document is not good enough to get the entire picture of both the proposals.
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