The method debate thread

[Micah Morrison]

I say MU is debatable faster because my MU turning TPS is personally faster than my RU turning TPS.

There is no opinion on whether MU is faster or slower than RU or especially RUF or RUD. I can do a Jb Perm in 0.61 seconds(13/0.61=21.3 TPS) and I can do an MU Ua Perm in 0.59 seconds (7/0.59 = 11.8 TPS). We can see that almost twice the TPS is achievable with RUF than MU.

MU can be as fast as RU

again, there is no opinion. Again, I can do the MU Ua Perm in 0.59 seconds (7/0.59=11.8 TPS) and I can do the double sune in 0.58 seconds (11/0.58=19 TPS)

 

[brododragon]

I use CFOP, but i think Petrus is the best method

I can tell if you're being serious.

 

[Username: Username:]

There is no opinion on whether MU is faster or slower than RU or especially RUF or RUD. I can do a Jb Perm in 0.61 seconds(13/0.61=21.3 TPS) and I can do an MU Ua Perm in 0.59 seconds (7/0.59 = 11.8 TPS). We can see that almost twice the TPS is achievable with RUF than MU.

but that TPS is just wasted in high movecount, in HK you could be having similar times with the one who turns way faster than you in CFOP.

 

[AlphaCuber is awesome]

There is no opinion on whether MU is faster or slower than RU or especially RUF or RUD. I can do a Jb Perm in 0.61 seconds(13/0.61=21.3 TPS) and I can do an MU Ua Perm in 0.59 seconds (7/0.59 = 11.8 TPS). We can see that almost twice the TPS is achievable with RUF than MU.

look at it in qtm which is more accurate for this sort of thing jperm is 15 so TPS is 24.59 and the u perm is 10 so TPS is 16.94 which is less of a difference take into account that you are a cfop solver and bad at M moves and suddenly the TPS difference looks much smaller

 

[Micah Morrison]

but that TPS is just wasted in high movecount, in HK you could be having similar times with the one who turns way faster than you in CFOP.

this is the stupidest argument ever. You can't choose what case you get in a solve. I chose algorithms that I believe are the fastest achievable TPS for both sets

 

[Micah Morrison]

you are a cfop solver and bad at M moves and suddenly the TPS difference looks much smaller

not true. Why don't you do an MU Ua Perm and see how fast you can get it? Also, if you do it in QTM, that just proves that M2's are much slower than R2's

 

[Username: Username:]

this is the stupidest argument ever. You can't choose what case you get in a solve. I chose algorithms that I believe are the fastest achievable TPS for both sets

CFOP's average movecount : 50-60 HK's average move count : ~40-50.

 

[Micah Morrison]

CFOP's average movecount : 50-60 HK's average move count : ~40-50.

how many average MU moves in HK?

 

[Username: Username:]

how many average MU moves in HK?

they are heavy in HKOLL, I didn't know how much M moves in HKOLL.

 

[Micah Morrison]

they are heavy in HKOLL, I didn't know how much M moves in HKOLL.

so the 10 fewer moves saved would be balanced out by the low achievable TPS of MU moves.

 

[EliteCuber]

I can tell if you're being serious.

im being serious

 

[Username: Username:]

Do this to your cube : M' U' M U' M' U' M what you see on the cube is an HKOLL case the algorithm for it is M' U M U M' U M and that algorithm is hand generated meaning it is not better than computer genned fingertricky alg but watch when I load it to cube explorer, now the algorithm is U F U D' L' U L U' D F' U and it's shorter plus its more fingertricky, what do you think was CFOP's OLL algs when they were hand generated, awful right? I'm a bit wrong on HK's reliance on m moves, that was before the HKOLL's algs was generated by a computer.

 

[Owen Morrison]

@Username: Username: If HK is more efficient than CFOP even without HKOLL and HKPLL, post a reconstruction here. I know that you won't though, because it is going to be above 60 moves.

PS this belongs in the method debate thread, let's move there.

EDIT: I am absolutely stupid, we are in the Method debate thread...

 

[Username: Username:]

@Username: Username: If HK is more efficient than CFOP even without HKOLL and HKPLL, post a reconstruction here. I know that you won't though, because it is going to be above 60 moves.

PS this belongs in the method debate thread, let's move there.

lol COLL and L5E isn't going to take more than 50 moves, let alone 60.

 

[Owen Morrison]

lol COLL and L5E isn't going to take more than 50 moves, let alone 60.

POST A RECONSTRUCTION THEN!

 

[Username: Username:]

POST A RECONSTRUCTION THEN!

Do you think I could make a reconstruction in a second?

 

[EliteCuber]

Do you think I could make a reconstruction in a second?

MAYYYYYYBE

 

[Owen Morrison]

Do you think I could make a reconstruction in a second?

POST ONE IN 10 MINUTES THEN.

Prove that you can get under 50 moves without HKOLL or HKPLL.

 

[ProStar]

POST ONE IN 10 MINUTES THEN.

Prove that you can get under 50 moves without HKOLL or HKPLL.

Chill bro, you sound like me

 

[Owen Morrison]

Chill bro, you sound like me

Yeah imma chill now and practice some YruRU, it's pretty obvious that @Username: Username: can't get under 50 moves with HK.