OH Method Debate

[mukerflap]

But according to you if someone else does it then everyone else can just as well? Is that not what you meant in this post?


I have something for you my friend
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Seriously, how have I been proven wrong on what topic?

no its a proof of concept that M moves are possible on 7x7 and you can turn decently fast with them. Everyone can do it if they have a good 7x7

 

[Etotheipi]

no its a proof of concept that M moves are possible on 7x7 and you can turn decently fast with them. Everyone can do it if they have a good 7x7

You've made your point that you can do M moves on big cubes, there's no need to restate it a thousand times. Now back to OH for goodness' sake.

 

[Micah Morrison]

I'm going to be honest on my X Man Spark M M moves aren't that much of a problem for me. It's worse on my Shadow M, because the magnets aren't as strong (use code "MICAH" at speedcubing.org so I can get an MGC 6x6 )

Actually it is. The last 2 and a half pages are basically all about Roux for big cubes, when the topic is supposed to be about OH. And yes I know, I don't have to look at the thread, but trust me, I'm not doing this for myself. I want people to be able to have an on topic debate about OH methods without sifting through pages of off topic stuff.

sometimes, after debating for 14 pages about which method is best for OH, people run out of things to talk about that specific topic.

 

[Sub1Hour]

sometimes, after debating for 14 pages about which method is best for OH, people run out of things to talk about that specific topic.

Especially when someone keeps on stating opinions as fact ignoring that we already came to the conclusion that there is no 1 best method for OH and it depends on the person and their skillset.

 

[Nmile7300]

sometimes, after debating for 14 pages about which method is best for OH, people run out of things to talk about that specific topic.

That's true.

 

[mukerflap]

Especially when someone keeps on stating opinions as fact ignoring that we already came to the conclusion that there is no 1 best method for OH and it depends on the person and their skillset.

LBL is not worse than cfop all methods are equal

 

[Etotheipi]

LBL is not worse than cfop all methods are equal

Wow! I never knew that! Tell me more.

 

[ProStar]

LBL is not worse than cfop all methods are equal

See, here's where this is different. I have objective proof that LBL is worse


CFOP is very similar in many ways to LBL, except it combines steps 2 & 3 into one step without compromising lookahead. For the last layer, it is finished in two algorithms instead of 4. CFOP is LBL except it's more efficient without compromising ergonomics or lookahead

You can't do that with Roux vs. CFOP

 

[brododragon]

Haha isn't that ironic? So how's the weather in virginia?

TRASH

alright that's an overstatement but it never snows and when it does it's in late spring so it melts in two seconds. But hey, we still get school off. You get used to all the bug bites are terrible humidity. One time, I slept outside on a cot and I kid you not I had Over a 100 bugbites.

Alright, back on topic

LBL is not worse than cfop all methods are equal

That's why ZZ is just as good as ZZ-a and you can get just as fast times with 8355 method.

 

[ProStar]

We better stay on topic, @Nmile7300 will hyperventilate otherwise

 

[NevEr_QeyX]

tbh I think anyone who averages x seconds with roux could quickly become within 2-3 seconds of that average if they committed to CFOP for a week-3 weeks and then, boom, their 3x3 stage is already better.

But you can't go from CFOP to Roux very easily.

 

[TheRouxGuy]

But you can't go from CFOP to Roux very easily.

It only the blockbuilding that one has to get used to. Rest is easily adaptable though I'm not sure about LSE. Believe me, I've switched back and forth thrice and it never was an issue.

 

[BlindNerd]

zhouheng

 

[NevEr_QeyX]

zhouheng

I've never seen a premium member with only 8 messages, is that a WR or something?

 

[WoowyBaby]

Is there any method that someone has gotten an OH 8.3 Ao5 on cam with?

Yep, that’s right, it’s the fatty sauce method! Excuse me- Roux. So we can conclude from this 8.3 Ao5 done OH that either Kian Mansour is a god solver, or Roux is a god OH method, or both.

This is the fastest OH Ao5 in the world by a landslide, right? Correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to know about something even more incredible.
(Even if this isn’t, Kian was/is an amazing OH solver and Roux is an amazing OH method.)

 

[mukerflap]

Is there any method that someone has gotten an OH 8.3 Ao5 on cam with?

Yep, that’s right, it’s the fatty sauce method! Excuse me- Roux. So we can conclude from this 8.3 Ao5 done OH that either Kian Mansour is a god solver, or Roux is a god OH method, or both.

This is the fastest OH Ao5 in the world by a landslide, right? Correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to know about something even more incredible.
(Even if this isn’t, Kian was/is an amazing OH solver and Roux is an amazing OH method.)

Iuri has an 8.8 ao5 on cam .. also with roux