Curvy Copter Discussion(New)

[Wish Lin]

This is a thread to discuss anything related to the curvy copter puzzle.

Some threads about the curvy copter:

SALOW Notation(New): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/salow-notation-for-curvy-copter.74968/

Move optiaml last 4 corner algs(New): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/curvy-copter-l4c-algorithms-new.74991/

Curvy copter hardware small comparison(New): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/curvy-copter-comparison.74975/

Curvy Copter Discussion(Old): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/curvy-copter-discussion.31844/

Curvy Copter(Non Jumbling) UWR(Old): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/the-non-jumbling-curvy-copter-uwr-race.61144/

Last 4 Corner algs(Old): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/curvy-copter-oll-and-pll-algorithms.45494/

Random alg discussion(Old): https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/curvy-copter-algs.32667/

Please don't reply to threads that are too old.

 

[PapaSmurf]

I'm going to put the method I came up with (and doubtless countless other people have) to solve it. It's not fast or advanced but it does the job.
1. Unjumble.
2. Solve the bottom corners+EO of F2L edges.
3. Solve EO on U.
4. Solve 2 corners on U.
5. Use a super long conjugate to orientate the last 2 corners.
6. Use non-junbling comms to solve as many centres as possible.
7. Use jumbling comms to solve the rest of the centres.
I figure out the comms on the spot so I haven't written anything down. It'd be nice to see this speed-optimised a little bit, and yeah, I'd support it as an event although events would have to be removed or another solution found (such as limiting how many events someone can do or how many people can sign up to an event).

 

[Sion]

The next big step would be to make a list of Center algorithms for Curvy Copter.

CeOLL
CePLL

 

[Wish Lin]

The next big step would be to make a list of Center algorithms for Curvy Copter.

CeOLL
CePLL

By center, you mean the triangles ?

 

[Sion]

By center, you mean the triangles?

Yes.

 

[Wish Lin]

Yes.

But how about jumbling? That will raise the total alg by a lot count unless we can find some parity alg that can make any jumbled CeOLL/ CePLL into an unjumbled state.

 

[OreKehStrah]

By center, you mean the triangles ?

Just for reference I’ve been calling the center pieces petals since they look like flower petals

 

[Wish Lin]

Just for reference I’ve been calling the center pieces petals since they look like flower petals

I called it clover leaf because it looks like one. I call them triangles just because RedKB calls them triangles and he is probably the first one to name them.

 

[Wish Lin]

Need some help here. What is the alg for this jumble CePLL case? (Switch the red and blue triangles that I pointed)

Ps: Is this even possible?

 

[whatshisbucket]

You can't swap only those 2 centers (easily) because the center permutation is even barring significant jumbling. You have to do a 3-cycle of centers, for example the misplaced red once and two blue ones.

 

[Wish Lin]

You have to do a 3-cycle of centers, for example the misplaced red once and two blue on

How can I do that? I couldn't cycle those 3 pieces.

 

[whatshisbucket]

How can I do that? I couldn't cycle those 3 pieces.

Well generally you can do things like (UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF-) to swap two pairs of centers, one within a single orbit and one pair of centers from different orbits. It is not so hard to use moves like this to get centers in appropriate orbits.

 

[Wish Lin]

Well generally you can do things like (UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF-) to swap two pairs of centers, one within a single orbit and one pair of centers from different orbits. It is not so easy to use moves like this to get centers in appropriate orbits.

Thanks! Somehow my problem is fixed when I messed with it.

 

[Sion]

I came up with a copter icon that could possibly be used if it becomes an event:

 

[Iwannaganx]

What curvy copter should I get (Australia)? I can't seem to find anything but the lanlan one, is it ok? Like 20aud ok?
Btw wish Lin loving the new profile pic

 

[Sion]

What curvy copter should I get (Australia)? I can't seem to find anything but the lanlan one, is it ok? Like 20aud ok?

The lanlan is perfectly fine. It's actually easier to do jumbles on, which is preferential for a jumbling puzzle like Curvy Copter.


Copter is a fairly old puzzle, but it's only being put into a more serious light recently. I'd still get one anyway, however.


Speed copters might become a thing if it turns out that this is a popular puzzle, which seems exciting. (I'm actually in the process of designing one now!)

 

[Wish Lin]

Btw wish Lin loving the new profile pic

Thanks! That’s actually MY LanLan curvy copter’s image being cropped

 

[Wish Lin]

Speed copters might become a thing if it turns out that this is a popular puzzle

And that’s what we are doing now Developing algs and notation to make it popular.

 

[Wish Lin]

Anyone believing this? I don’t.

He got a 4 move “F2L” and a 2 move TLL!

 

[Mike Hughey]

I came up with a copter icon that could possibly be used if it becomes an event:

This might prove to be very useful, but for our weekly competition we are using the icon set from the WCA (I am adding icons as we add non-official events), and they must be in SVG format. Do you have this in SVG format? Also, they need to match the general dimensions of the others in the set, based on a 500 x 500 grid. You can check the others out on github:
https://github.com/cubing/icons